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GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, November 28, 2011 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:02pm.
Clint Smith gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Shane Bahr , seconded by Dave Valentyne . Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Meyerhofer Jr. , seconded by Shane Bahr. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Changes from Rules meetings
? Gentlemen’s rule for all classes--to be discussed at future meetings; tapping hood by flag stand or other options.
? LM—weights---L S motor adding 25 #. Cubic inch max of 364. We also need to consider if travelers show up bringing them up for discussion at the driver’s meeting to decide on a fair weight.
? LLM--RHS heads are outlawed; no run off allowed.
? SS, SF and 8’s-- will be given an extension on belts and helmets if they pass the tech inspector’s and an officer’s approval to being in good shape and having sound structure.
? SS line up is changed to no qualifying, pick start position first night and then lined up by nightly average points. Hot laps are after the trucks and the 4’s hot laps.
? S-4’s-No exterior rub rails allowed. Vinyl savers are permitted. Only one 5” round or OEM style interior mirror. The SOHC must weigh 2100 pounds and the DOHC must weigh 2250 with driver in car. Factory stance of the car is going to be policed. Springs must be of the same size, number of coils and diameter. Front and rear springs must match each other side to side. Cutting of springs in the middle and installing “half springs” is prohibited.
? F-8 No aluminum intakes (intakes must be cast iron). The front bay bars are only allowed to extend 2” past the center of the upper control arm front mounting bolt. Excessive front bracing will be asked to be removed by the following week or car will not complete.
? R, W and B---want to come up with a way to spice this series up and make these nights actually appear like special events. We encourage ideas to be submitted to the website for this, as we really want to get a great order of events on these nights. E-mail ideas via the “e-mail us” option on the website.
NEW BUSINESS
? We have 3 nights open right now; please contact an officer with any leads on a sponsorship night.
? Should we have a January meeting or not? We don’t typically get many memberships on these nights each year. 3 voted for HAVING a meeting and basically everyone else (roughly 25+) voted to NOT have a meeting in January. Our next meeting will be in February, 2012. Happy Holidays and enjoy your time off.
? We are discussing going down to 30 laps from 35 laps for the LM feature, but are seeking feedback. Several people had differing opinions on this. We will have a discussion on this. As of right now, we had 9 LM teams present. 7 voted to keep 35 laps and 2 voted for dropping to 30 laps. This was not a good representation of the division right now.
? We are also considering time limits if a certain feature gets too long. This will be tabled.
BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR
? Mark Ritger suggested we consider putting the SS on the half mile for the R, W and B nights. Dave Stammer said he didn’t hear as much advertising on WAPL for the R, W and B races. Mark Ritger also suggested we do twin 35 lap features for the LM.
? Terry Korth mentioned that the flagman can’t see the whole track. Right now we have 2 flagman in the stand and 3 more spotters who are also flagmen, as the flagman can’t see the whole track. Pat Braun said that whomever we hire, he needs to use the black flag. We discussed better vantage points for the spotters. Jerry said the tone needs to be set the first few weeks.
? Dennis Stebane brought up that too many cars come up to shake their cars during other heats instead of actually racing and then they just drop out and have fresher tires for the features. We will take this under advisement.
50/50 winner was Al Golueke $27
Motion to adjourn was made by Dave Valentyne seconded by Shane Bahr
Meeting adjourned at 7:53 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, February 27th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, October 24, 2011 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:04 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Lowell Bennett. Motion carried
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Larry read off a list of the left over checks from the banquet and left over awards and plaques
Motion to accept made by Mike Meyerhofer Jr. , seconded by Gordie Sannes Jr. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Additional nominations for Secretary for write in nominations. None
Additional nominations for President for write in nominations. None
Voting takes place for President and Secretary.
Results….Jerry Schneider is the president for the next two years; Clint Smith is the secretary for the next two years. Jerry made mention of the fact that he may not be able to fulfill the full 2 year term, depending on his brother’s health issues, but for now he will give it a go.
NEW BUSINESS
Rules meetings….We are working on a rules meeting day. 1 hour per division. All divisions will
have an hour maximum. We are looking at Saturday, November 12th starting at 9am or so…..The
exact times for each division will be posted. 2 people per team maximum at the meeting.
Jerry mentioned that we need to consider new ideas for the R, W and B series. Dave Stammer
mentioned some ideas we could look into were La Crosse Oktoberfest ideas.
We are accepting applications for any and all labor positions at the race track, including the
flagman position for 2012.
Terry Korth questioned the weights adjustments. Hank Calmes suggested we lock the weights in
and not make any changes when the season starts. Several teams made mention that if things are
being R & D then we should announce it at the driver’s meetings. Teams asked how many 9 to 1
motors are left over….3-4 total cars. Lowell suggested we send in the ACE motor’s heads for
inspection. Bob said we have done it in the past and everyone passed. We may consider sending
in some heads from last year with possible sanctions.
Tires for next year…WE will let genals know which tire we will run next year.
We took feedback on the Starlite Club and the banquet.
50/50 winner was Bob Abitz $28.00
Motion to adjourn was made by Jim Kemkes seconded by Amber Bahr----Meeting adjourned at 7:53 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, November 28th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, September 26, 2011 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:07pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Gordie Sannes, Jr., seconded by Brandon Conrad. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Gordie Sannes, Jr., seconded by Eugene Ciferno. Motion carried.
OLD
· Thanks for a great season
· Points fund update…similar to last year…still have a few outstanding bills. Jerry read them off. All financial info. was posted on the easel in front of the room for everyone to see.
· Jerry mentioned that we want to buy 2 new radios for the club and took a raise of hands on if we should buy them and many raised their hands. Nobody was against this action.
· Banquet update: October 15th Jerry asked if we should continue to buy door prizes. He took a vote nobody voted in favor of buying door prizes. 22 people raised their hands to NOT buy door prizes.
VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
volunteers for 50/50 needed—come up front after meeting to sign up (Marty)
SPONSORS NEEDED
Looking for banquet sponsors for trophies and beer $175 a piece (Larry/Jerry)
· Banquet Ticket prices….$15 on sale tonight.
· Additional Nominations for Secretary and President; thus far we have
President—Nominated---Jerry Schneider…seconded by John Van and accepted.
Secretary---Nominated---Clint Smith…seconded by Andy Monday and accepted.
We will still accept write-in candidates at the October meeting, but right after reading off our previous meeting minutes at that meeting, we will be voting and electing our two officers for the next two years.
A member asked if Cheryl Schneider gets paid and it was shared how much she gets paid….$125 per event. Evan Carpenter suggested that Cheryl get a pay raise to $200 per event, as an accountant typically gets paid almost that wage per HOUR.
Jerry talked about some ideas about next year.
NEW
· RULES will NOT be talked about or addressed until we have the 2012 Elected officers in place…
· Terry Korth asked if we tested any tires and Jerry mentioned that Jason Vandenberg was testing a tire at the end of the year. Jim Vandenberg mentioned that it wasn’t “leaps” better than our current tire. Lowell mentioned that this tire helps flat foot it, making it a one groove track and harder to pass on the outside. Lowell suggested that Slinger go back to 35’s and 45’s, like our current tire. Dave Stammer mentioned that he saw more control with that other tire. Andy Monday mentioned that the tire stuck better, but there is such a thing as too good a tire, which like Lowell said could create one lane racing.
· Mike Springstroh asked about the different spec. motors that used different heads in LLM. There were many comments made about this. Brent Strelka said it was talked about in the LLM rules meeting after the general meeting in April. Jason agreed that it was voted on by the majority of the LLM group at that rules meeting last spring.
· Bob Abitz suggested that the club give Cheryl Schneider an extra $750 out of the points fund and Mike Meyerhofer seconded it. Jerry suggested folks give her the recognition she deserves when they see her next.
· It was asked why we have a Treasurer then? Jerry said because we need four officers.
· Terry Korth asked why we have the meetings every month if things get changed at drivers meetings. Jerry said maybe we shouldn’t meet every month and we should really consider new ideas for the Red, White and Blue series next year.
· Jim Vandenberg suggested we leave the rules alone. Marty has some ideas he wants to share with the divisions.
· Jerry said the main thing we should all work on getting every night sponsored, and we should consider skipping the January meeting if we can get our rules done in November.
· Hank Calmes suggested a better tire for that division. Marty said that this will be talked about in the LLM rules meeting.
· Jerry said we could consider another brand tire if Hoosier wont provide 35’s and 45’s.
· Lowell suggested we ponder 3 tires for LM and LLM one tire and LM take offs. This is a rules question.
· Terry Korth asked about options for next year for the flagman position. Jerry said we fire all employees and will hire new ones next year, but we do have some options. Pat Braun suggested Art Sieffert.
· Race-ceivers..Terry said there was a lot of complaining about this, as far as “watch the bumper” etc. Jerry said he felt the chatter went way down as the season went on for the ½ mile.
· Hank Calmes said once the info. Is relayed, they should have one lap to get in their spot. It was mentioned that it works on the ¼ mile, but that is going directly to the driver. We need to re-look at this next year. Mike Meyerhofer made mention that at some smaller tracks, the flagman relays on the race-ceiver.
· Randy asked about moving the SS qualifying to later in the night. Jerry said lets worry about that later.
· Bob Abitz asked how much money FRRC grossed last year. It was roughly $360,000. Bob made mention that that the officers and office manager are grossly under paid for running a “business-like operation” that grosses that much money. Jerry made mention that once you give too large of increases, the points fund will shrivel up in a hurry. Jerry said he wants to tighten up the top gate, so there aren’t free admissions that there shouldn’t be.
· Andy Monday suggested that we get the groups of each division together and vote and finalize everything and be done with it and Jason Schultz suggested we do it on ONE Saturday.
50/50 winner was Todd Verhagen $21
Motion to adjourn was made by Randy Yaeger seconded by Chris Shields
Meeting adjourned at 8:22pm
Next Meeting is on Monday, October 24th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, April 25, 2010 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:10 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Tom Hockers , seconded by Eugene Ciferno. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Dennis Baldry , seconded by Gordie Sannes. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
We still have the opener available…Kaukauna Times will sponsor, plus Jerry has a group, so technically it will probably be covered.
R, W and B Order of Events read off
NEW BUSINESS
No parking personal vehicles in inner pits. We will strictly police this, due to perceived
increase in the number of vehicles down there.
No minors parking/driving pit vehicles (4 wheelers/golf carts). Must be licensed drivers for
insurance purposes
Jason would like information from each team on car specs, etc. This will start on practice day or
prior to that. Nobody will be approved unless they turn this in to the Tech crew.
Healthy Kids Day at the YMCA May 7th Same day as make-a-wish, so if you can make one or
the other, this would be helpful.
Bryon Dopkins…new flagman was introduced and spoke to the general membership. Gave his
Background and spoke about 2011 season expectations.
Jerry added that we have been told by several travelers that we have the best program in the
State. We all need to cooperate to keep making that possible. We will clean up divisions that
need cleaning up if they cannot cooperate.
Dennis Stebane asked if the posting on the Meidam fundraiser could be in bigger fonts so it was
more legible on the website.
50/50 winners were Cash prize $56 Ed Manders, 2 fast comfort VIP suite tickets were won by
Shane Bahr and Corey Manders
Motion to adjourn was made by Tom Hockers seconded by Shane Bahr
Meeting adjourned at 7:56pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, September 26th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, March 28, 2010 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:03 pm
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Eugene Ciferno, seconded by Dave Moderson. Motion Carried.
Jerald Schneider gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Meyerhofer Jr , seconded by Tom Gee Sr. Motion carried.
Moment of Silence was taken in respect for the Family and friends of Mike Randerson, as well as asking everyone to take a minute to possibly say a prayer for family and friends of the FRRC who are facing troubling times right now.
OLD BUSINESS
? Still need divisional sponsors for SS and LLM divisions, as well as needing a sponsor for the first and last Thursday nights of the season.
? Still have open spots for the nightly flier; see Clint if you have any leads.
? R, W and B format---skipping sport truck heats, so they are treated the same as every other division. We will be doing a mandatory caution after 25 laps if there are no cautions up to that point for the extended 75 lap features.
? No team driving in sizzlin’ 4’s this year and no more team driving in the super stocks starting the 2012 season. We need to start treating each division the same. NO TEAM DRIVING IN SIZZLIN’4 THIS YEAR. PERIOD !!!!! We had several lengthy discussions on this topic and took all suggestions very seriously.
NEW BUSINESS
? Update on John Meidam’s daughter and their situation. We are donating season passes for a silent auction they have coming up in May. They also have a caring bridge website that folks can stay up to speed on their daughter Halee’s progress. Jerry took suggestions on what else the club can do to help the Miedam’s out with their prospective lofty bills. Jason suggested we do a “pass the hat” in the pits and announce it up top for the fans to also contribute. Mike Butz suggested tech day be $20 for everyone and donate the money to the caring bridge website for the Meidam family. Tom Hockers suggested we consider some of the extra income from that $1 pay gate. Jerry suggested rather than doing anything intermittently and hard to track, maybe we could come up with something via the tech area to donate $$$. Bob also suggested if we have a car show to maybe consider to raffle off some season tickets and the funds could be donated to their cause. Eugene Ciferno suggested we get items donated and signed and auction them off for profit for the Meidam’s. Mike Butz had a Matt Kenseth specialty item to possibly donate through DJ’s and donate the profits to the Meidam family.
? Nobody will be allowed to buy bulk tickets to turn around and sell to fans or club members at a discounted rate. Club members would be able to buy them cheaper from this point on.
? Last day in June is the deadline to get advanced tickets for your sponsors.
? Posters and mini schedules are available up front, please take some and pass them around to local businesses.
? Pat Braun asked if he puts a random driver in one of his cars, will they get paid. Jerry said not unless they pay their competition fee first. Jerry said they will not get their checks until that competitor fee is paid in full.
? Jerry stated that the sizzlin 4 feature car count will be determined each night at the driver’s meeting. ½ of the drivers signed in at the drivers meeting will be the number of cars in the feature, plus the 4 transfers from the semi-feature. EX) 48 cars, 24 in feature, 24 in semi (4 of which will transfer to the feature=28 total cars)
? With the 6:45pm earlier start time, we will be qualifying SS cars much earlier, so please be prepared for that. SS will qualify RIGHT AFTER their hot laps. We will not be doing Sizzlin’4 hot laps in between SS hot laps and SS Qualifying. A question was asked about a warm up lap…only if we have time. The goal is to get going for the fans at 6:45pm and be done by 10pm.
? FUEL in Big PITS…..as for now, it will not be required….A parts truck individual came up front (Performance Motorsports) and said he can bring up to 600 gallons a night and can sell a drum of 55 gallons at a discounted rate. We might consider mandating it for future years, but for now we don’t plan on mandating it this year.
? Keith Romenesko has started a new powder coating and sandblasting company. It is located at 700 Country Rd KK. Telephone number 920-462-4053. Give him a call and support your local business owner.
50/50 winners were Chris Price in the amount of $ 63 and 2 sets of 2 tickets for the Fast Comfort seats from John Simonis were won by Dennis Baldry and Jeff Treml
Motion to adjourn was made by Eugene Ciferno seconded by Shane Bahr
Meeting adjourned at 7:43 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, April 25th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, February 28, 2011 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:05 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson , seconded by Eugene Ciferno. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Mike Meyerhofer . Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
? Nightly sponsor update…all nights filled except the opener and the finale
? Gate Admission prices reviewed; $10 for adults 13 and over and 12 and under is free; Dan Gracyalny questions changing the gate price. Jerry explained that it was voted on at the last two meetings. Randy Sonkowsky suggested we keep the $5 gate price for students. Terry Korth said we should move on and we did.
? Team driving in sizzling 4’s. Points go with the driver. Team driving can only be done if the points go with each separate driver, but they are not combined.
? Fast Comfort has donated 2 seats in the suites for the 50/50 tonight.
? Rules questions…A question about the carb for the LS Jason clarified that it would be the same as the ACE
? Razor advertising for this year in collaboration with WAPL
NEW BUSINESS
? Employee/contractors meeting on March 19th at noon. We have offered the flagman position to Bryon Dopkins, for 2011 who was the flagman last season at Columbus 151 and also has multiple years experience working in the Nascar Craftsman Truck Series.
? Officer’s pay raise proposal; Jerry read off the fact that the officer’s haven’t gotten a pay raise since as long as he can remember. We don’t feel we should have to pay employees more than officers. In order to get quality employees/contractors, we need to pay a fair amount and it should be equal or less than officer’s who have been working multiple terms. Eugene Ciferno made a motion to vote for the pay increase proposal that Jerry read off and it was seconded by Randy Piontek. The vote was taken with excess of 40 hands. No members raised their hands as being opposed. Motion passed. Officers will get paid based on longevity. First term-$125, second term-$150, fouth term-$175 and sixth term-$200 per event.
? Tech day; $10 to tech, $20 total to practice. It is May 21st, 2011
? Spots still open for the nightly flier. Please see Clint if interested.
? Dave Gracyalny asked about a car show. Jerry will talk to the Starlite club about possibly doing it here. Bill Fisher suggested we talk to Roger about doing the car show at W.I.R. in conjunction with the Make-a-Wish. Jerry will talk to Roger about this if we can get enough drivers to commit to bringing their cars.
? Dan Gracyalny brought up concerns about the 4 cylinders. Dan is asking for a few things, so Jason and Jerry will meet with 4 cylinder after the general meeting.
? Extra participation plaque face plates were available
? Late Model drivers come up front after the meeting to discuss R, W and B issues.
50/50 winners were Al Gouleke $40 and 2 seats in the Fast Comfort Suites-Ed Howard
Motion to adjourn was made by Dave Moderson seconded by Dave Stammer
Meeting adjourned at 7:45 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, March 28th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
~FRRC SCRIBE~
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, January 24th, 2011 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President
Jerald Schneider called the January meeting to order at 7:07 PM
Marty Nussbaum gave the secretaries report.
Motion to accept made by John Meidam, second Kyle Calmes
Larry McArthur gave the treasurer's report.
Motion to accept Hank Calmes second Lowell Bennett
OLD BUSINESS
The meeting in December it was decided that the super stocks will not have
fiberglass bodies.
Procedure change from December meetings:
The super stocks will qualify right after their practice
The sizzlin fours will draw for starting position the first night and then
be lined up by points for the remainder of the year.
There is a new time table that we are going to with racing starting at 6:45.
Pre race things can be adjusted so we make sure to start at 6:45.
Question was asked why we had to be done by 10 PM.
Jerry pointed out that after 10 the fans don't come to the pits.
6:45 will be in large print on the schedules
NEW BUSINESS
A second vote was taken to set the gate pricing for the year. It was
majority going to Adults: $10 12 and under FREE
Hank Calmes asked where the extra money would be going. That the club could
help pay for some upgrades at the track
Jerry stated that to start the year there would be no increase in pay, so we
can make
sure the money is coming in and see how things go as the season progresses.
We would talk to Roger about other improvements. Such as club members set up
a day to pitch in and get the stands and the track ready with a "Fix Up
Day".
We have purchased new inspection equipment. We are looking at having a parts
truck with fuel at the track and buying fuel at the track would be required.
Shane Bahr suggested that we start testing at the first race.
Hank Calmes said everyone should give a sample.
ASA has a tester and buying fuel at the track is mandatory
Jason Shultz stated that the rule was not that specific and should be looked
at as to penalties and make it more clear.
Terry Korth brought up that some teams buy in bulk so it is cheaper.
Jerry said if the club could go to the supplier and there was proof of
purchase that it would be allowed to buy in bulk.
It was brought up to make practice day mandatory as the cars can be teched
and there would not be such a delay the opening night.
John Meidam brought up checking more things that day to set a baseline for
that car all year.
If a car was not at practice, they start in the rear the first night.
We are looking at making the tech day a longer day as to accommodate doing
more things.
Lowell Bennett brought up the fact that some might have a conflict on that
date.
Gordy Sannes pointed out that the track didn't open for practice until noon
even though the cars had to be there at 10.
Dave Valentyne brought up noise as a reason to not put cars on the track
until noon.
The idea was proposed that if a car was going to practice on the track that
car be charged $20. If the car was only being brought to get teched that
there would be no charge.
Bob Abitz brought up that some teching could be done on a Tuesday.
Idea was brought up that if you pass tech on tech day the first night you
are allowed to practice, if you were not at tech day or didn't pass, you
were not allowed on the track until you passed.
Kurt Schweitzer brought up the possibility that those that passed tech on
Saturday, they could volunteer to help get more cars through tech faster and
make the early part of the first night go smoother.
The Wegner LS motor was brought up and it was suggested that it weigh 2750.
After some discussion it was decided that it would remain the same weight as
last year.
25 pounds would be added to the Limited Late spec motor.
There will be a maximum valve height for the spec and the crate.
The Ford crate motor was brought up and the rules are staying the same as
last year as they were locked in. Future discussion of the Ford crate being
allowed for next year was tabled.
Randy Sonkowski brought up the car registration vs. the competitor fee.
Kurt Sweitzter said it gives someone that wants to try racing a chance to do
so.
It was decided that it would remain as it was in the rule book. As a
competitors fee. And aply to each division that a driver was wanting to run.
Mid Am's were again brought up. Concerns of the structure of a Mid Am vs. a
limited in a crash was a concern. And trying to get a Mid Am down to a
competitive weight for the half mile would cause issues.
If a Mid Am wants to race on the 1/4 mile, they are allowed to do so but
must conform to our rules. We are looking at letting 1, maybe 2, run as an
experiment to see if there is a way to work this out in the future.
John Meidam asked about the new flag man.
Jerry said the officers were in contact with a couple prospects and are
going to be talking with them in the near future.
The number of cars in a division was a concern that if there were not enough
cars to fill the field, that something would need to change in that
divisions program.
Jerry said we are going to watch this closely as we are not wanting to waste
time and get started at 6:45.
Tim Lowe asked about the SS qualifying procedure.
Kyle Calmes brought up that qualifying 2 cars at the same time might have a
safety issue and what if one of the cars spun or crashed how that would
affect the other qualifier.
Amber Bahr wanted everyone to know about the Beat the Winter Blues Party at
the Pit Stop on February 26th at 7 PM. There will be drink discounts and a
DJ.
Jerry let everyone know that W-2's and 1099's were able to be picked up.
Jerry reminded everyone that we need the height of every ones hauler so we
can start to arrange the pits for the year.
50/50 winner of $26 dollars was, of course, Al Gouleke.
Motion to adjourn made Tom Hockers and seconded by Gordy Sannes.
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, November 15, 2010 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:01pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Brandon Conrad, seconded by Evan Carpenter. Motion Carried.
Jerry Schneider gave the Treasurer's report (Larry MacArthur wasn’t present, as he had to work)
Motion to accept made by Dennis Stebane, seconded by Dave Valentyne. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
? Rules made motion last year to lock them in.
? Tech crew-we plan to bring back the same crew as last year, with adding Phil Martzahl to help in outer pits and inner pits.
? Super stock bodies: asking for fiberglass bodies. Gordie Sannes asked how much a fiberglass body costs…Tim Lowe said you can get one for $1,400. Greg Hauser suggested allowing fiberglass roof. And steel panels. At this point, we feel the fiberglass roof should be allowed, as they are harder to find. Several members voiced their opinions. We are more than likely going to make an amendment to allow it, but will be considering adding weight if they run a full fiberglass car. We will still talk to the tech crew about this to determine what the best weights would be.
? Mid-am cars on the ¼ mile?? We feel it would be better to allow the mid-ams to run 2900 on the ½ mile instead of 3000. Greg Hauser thinks this would be better than having them run the ¼ mile. Bob Schultz suggested we give them a weight penalty and run them on the ¼ mile. Greg Hauser feels letting them on the ¼ mile is opening a can of worms.
? Mark Ritger says we need to get control of the race…that is why feels the car counts went down over the last few years.
? Flagman; we are looking for a new flagman for 2011. We are taking applications. Please send them in to the “e-mail me” Pat Braun said Dennis Peipkorn is interested in coming back.
? Greg Hauser suggested painting lines on the ¼ mile for lanes. This is a possibility early on…like practice day. Jerry said we will consider doing this in spring. Tim said in the past when this was tried, it created more problems. He feels we need a flagman who will enforce things, not lines painted on the track. This is another thing to police it. Painting a “rookie line” makes more sense, but to enforce it wouldn’t make a lot of sense, as in a split second that line gets pretty cloudy. Tim feels there is still too much mirror driving and that takes away a lot of the good side by side racing.
? Todd Verhagen said there are too many spotters that try to tell drivers how to drive the car, instead of communicating “car high , car low, etc”
? Mark Ritger suggested that we post something soon, as Slinger is looking right now, too.
NEW BUSINESS
? FRRC schedule…we have 5 nights open yet…..May 26, June 2nd, July 7th,
August 11th and September 1st
? Procedure changes……would like to consider starting at 6:45pm. In order to do that, we’d have to cut out ¼ mile qualifying and take their transponder times from hot laps instead. We are still considering other options. Jim Vandenberg suggested we consider this on the ½ mile, too. If we did that, we’d save a LOT of time. We really want to try to get done BY 10pm on a regular basis. But, we can only start hot laps no earlier than 4:30pm with it being a weeknight. Dave Valentyne said if you eliminated individual qualifying, it would give you more hot lap times. Bob Schultz suggested when rain is threatening, we always get done at a reasonable hour. Dan Gracyalny suggested that we do the R, W and B format any time weather is threatening…Brent Strelka suggested we qualify 2 cars at a time to get done quicker. We will consider this, as we currently spend over an hour qualifying cars each night.
? Dave Gracyalny said we should have a billboard or a large banner posted with all the nightly sponsors to give more recognition for the whole season. Dan Gracyalny suggested splitting the cost with the nightly sponsors.
? Dennis Stebane said we should suggest that we give bonus points for “cars passed” This is hard to track other than position started and position finished. Tim feels that the current points structure doesn’t promote a lot of passing. Jerry said we can look at this and consider giving more points for the top finishers, as opposed to other positions.
? Dan Gracylany suggested doing twin 40 lap features, with a full invert instead of a 75 lap feature. Payout structure would have to be split between the two features. Tim suggested we get rid of the role of dice, as this takes too big of an affect on the finishing order. He suggested a full invert of 14 cars. Bob Schultz suggested no break in-between two 35 lap features…Jerry said teching might be an issue. Tim suggested they get a spare tire pre-approved.
? Scott Vanderloop suggested we put up a sign on highway 10 by the Meyerhofer farm.
? Dan Gracyalny suggested getting rid of lead in figure eights and only steel boy panels
50/50 winner was $25 Dave Valentyne
Motion to adjourn was made by Bob Schultz seconded by Randy Piontek
Meeting adjourned at 8:35 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, January 24th at 7pm at the Starlite Club (no meeting in December)
There will be 2 divisional meetings in December:
December 4th (Saturday) at 1pm at the Pit Stop for Super Stocks to discuss Mid-am cars and finalize a decision on that and possible weight penalties for having a fiberglass body or panels.
December 11th (Saturday) at 1pm at the Pit Stop for Sizzlin’ 4’s to discuss new race procedures for 2011 and finalize any other amendments to the rules.
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, October 25, 2010 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:01 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dennis Baldry , seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Ed Howard. Motion carried.
OLD
· Jerry will read off Pat’s resignation letter. Pat Barrett has resigned from being our flagman. The probationary deal did NOT work. We will consider suspensions for future blatant disrespect. Whether this makes you happy or disappoints you, it is quite disturbing that one of his reasons for leaving was the apparent disregard for authority figures.
· Additional Nominations for Vice President and Treasurer as write in candidates…..
VP—Nominated and accepted Mike Springstroh, Mike Bunnell.
Marty Nussbaum has decided to run as a write in candidate for VP
Speeches given.: Mike Bunnell was not present, due to work. First was Mike Springstroh.
Second was Marty Nussbaum.
Treasurer---Nominated and accepted Larry MacArthur, Mitch Heimlich
No write ins….
Speeches given: Larry MacArthur was first. Mitch Heimlich also gave a speech.
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· Voting takes place for Treasurer and VP
· Voting results: VP:::::Marty Nussbaum 28; Mike Springstroh 23; Mike Bunnel 22;
Marty Nussbaum is the new V.P.
· Voting Results: Treasurer::::Larry MacArthur 65; Mitch Heimlich 9;
Larry MacArthur is the Treasurer
· Banquet recap; extra checks left over, which were read off.
NEW
· RULES: there was a motion made and seconded last year to lock in the rules for this year (discussion point)…..Rulebook will be kept as is. Just a few amendments to adjust mistakes from last year’s rulebook which were not correct.
· Mike Springstroh questioned the 2 year suspension for illegal crate motors….which he claimed is how the current rule book reads. The rule book does mention the 2 year suspension, but only if the seals are tampered with. Jason mentioned that rules about starting cars in the tech area will be enforced.
· Tom feels that the Red, White and Blue series should have a collective payout for the final top finishing points positions. Jerry feels that the weekly guys should also benefit, not just the Red, White and Blue travelers.
· John Meidam requested that the pay be posted in addition to the points, (which are already there) on the website on the officer’s forum.
· Mark Anthony was suggesting having mid-ams run in the super stock division, as there are a lot of mid-am/sportsman cars around in garages in the area. He felt that the main change that would need to be made would be screw jacks and quick change rear ends. Ed Howard said adding the mid-ams to the super stock division would make the current Super stock cars useless. Tim Lowe suggested the mid-am cars make the changes, not changing the Super stock rules. Tim also suggested newer better bodies on the super stocks. Jason said if we want to consider updated bodies, it should be the whole body.
· Sizzlin 4’s—will need to do something different so there aren’t 30 cars on the track at one time.
· Jerry mentioned that we are considering raising the gate to $10 per adult next year. Randy Yaeger thinks that raising the $1 might scare away fans. Several others mentioned that they feel it wouldn’t scare people away.
· Monte Tetzlaff made a motion to raise the gate to $10 next year for adults. Mike Springstroh seconded it. A raise of hands vote was done; 2 wanted to keep the gate at $9 and the majority of members voted to raise it to $10
· Tom Gee made a motion; seconded by Amber Bahr to raise the student admission to $5. The majority of the members raised their hands in favor of this motion.
· Denny Crass suggested that when the leader of a race is taken out , the car taking him out should be black flagged. Jerry said we will look at that contact rule in the off season. Denny still had questions about the “blocking rule” This will have to be discussed further when we hire a new flagman.
· Jesse Oudenhoven said painting the lines on the ½ mile helps new drivers learn.
· John Meidam suggested that the flagman takes the corner workers word for it more often as gold.
· Jerry and Dave V suggested putting a stand outside or a lift outside turn 3, which we will talk to Roger about later.
· Evan Carpenter asked if Roger makes any calls. Jerry said no, he does not.
· Jerry said we are looking to give a better viewpoint to the fans by considering moving the “stacker” haulers where Robb Vanderloop and Mark Schroeder typically parked in years past. That area is lower than other areas. Roger is going to look at possibly making a road to the Drag pits to use them more.
· Don Oudenhoven questioned having wrecked cars finish in the spots they were the lap before that. Tom suggested having all races end under green. Jerry feels the new amb system will help make the moving cars to the back easier.
· Lowell Bennett suggested the gentlemen’s rule. It has been done at the Dells and Slinger. If a guy says it is his fault and puts himself to the back, the other car wouldn’t need to go to the tail. Brent Strelka thinks that everyone who was deemed “involved” should go to the back, but felt it wasn’t consistent throughout the year.
· Skippy suggested that we look at the LLM car counts for the feature (adding cars after a certain amount of total cars present is determined) We will look at that.
· Dave Bohlin asked if we ever considered running the R, W and B format every week. On a normal night, we could be done too early. Budweiser wanted a different format than normal nights, to make them unique.
· Mike Springstroh suggested more money for Red, White and Blue to attract travelers, but Jerry feels it should be spread out.
· Pat Braun has mentioned that he is interested in the 2011 flagman position.
50/50 winner was Brandon Conrad $41
Motion to adjourn was made by Ed Howard seconded by Randy Piontek
Meeting adjourned at 8:47 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, November 15th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL
MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, September
27, 2010 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:02 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Eugene Ciferno, seconded by Monte Tetzlaff. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Dennis Stebane, seconded by Mike Springstroh.
Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Points fund update (also covered in Treasurer’s report.) The total amount is
high, but we have a lot of banquet expenses. We also would like to update
amb and speednet and a new computer to speed things up with lineups. These
improvements alone would be $3,500. We also are considering some upgrades to
tech equipment., which were suggested by the current tech crew.
Pat Braun asked if the scoring would have less errors with better equipment.
We believe it will, but there is always the possibility of human error.
Meetings will continue to be at the Starlite club, as well as future
banquets after this year.
Banquet volunteers are needed in many areas. Please contact one of the
officers if you can help.
Banquet tickets are $15; there will be a cutoff date. One week before the
banquet
Current VP Nominations who were eligible and accepted their
nominations---Mike Springstroh and Mike Bunnell.
Marty Nussbaum and Jason Schultz were nominated earlier at driver’s
meetings, but were unsure if they would accept their nomination. Marty and
Jason both declined.
Additional nominations taken tonight….none
Current Treasurer nominations who were eligible and accepted the
nomination---none
Larry MacArthur was nominated and was unsure at a previous driver‘s meeting.
He has since accepted the nomination.
Krissy Smet was nominated, but was only a member this season, so she is not
eligible.
Additional nominations….Mitch Heimlich was nominated and accepted.
NEW BUSINESS
Rules will not be talked about or addressed until after nominations.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
Randy Sonkowsky will field a sizzlin’ 4 meeting after the FRRC meeting to
discuss a rules
meeting/date.
Questions were fielded about extra help in the outer pits; Jerry said it
will be addressed. We
might even get a scanner out there.
Mike Springstroh said we should re-look at our red flag guidelines in the
rule book.
Question about race-ceivers on the ½ mile by Eugene Ciferno.
Tom Gee has a tire recycler that will take 8 inch tires. Contact Tom for
more details.
Mitch Heimlich reminded everyone of the enduro race this Saturday at WIR.
Frank Kreyer suggested we consider “passing points”
Get Well card for Scott Vanderloop, who had a recent medical procedure.
Randy had questions about the flagman for next year. Don’t have the elected
officers yet, so
cannot talk about that right now.
50/50 winner was Katie Braun $28
Motion to adjourn was made by Randy Yaeger seconded by Dennis Stebane
Meeting adjourned at 7:34 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, October 25th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL
MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, April 26, 2010
TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:05 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion
Carried.
Larry MacArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh , seconded by Ed Howard. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Memberships on sale again tonight. Price goes up after tonight. Please
make sure membership forms are filled out correctly, as this is what we will
use in the nightly fliers for the fans and in our database.
LM tires---Slinger has switched now to do 40’s and 50’s////Officers are
suggesting we start on 40’s and 50’s and switch at the Red race if drivers
don’t like them.
Brad Buss from Genals also gave feedback on the new tire compound. He said
there is some feedback from Elko and thus far information has been positive.
Brad said FRRC does not want to be on 35’s all by ourselves.
Stickers for contingencies are available tonight for SS, LLM and LM.
Please come up front for these.
NEW BUSINESS
New points feedback for sizzlin’s 4’s. Sizzlin’ 4’s should come up after
the meeting to give feedback on this.
Race-ceivers will be required for LLM and LM team spotters, unless you
already have a scanner. Some teams spoke up and had a problem with the cost.
Bud Collar gave feedback and some hard numbers. If you own a scanner, you do
NOT need to buy anything. If you need to buy one, they are $100. Hank Calmes
said ASA does this and it speeds up the show and works very well. Bud said
he can also program the channel into the some drivers radios, but that will
be interrupting spotter to driver and cannot be done to all radios, just
certain ones.
50# weight break will be given for SS AND Figure Eight drivers who have a
Hans, Hutchins, or any other head and neck restraint above and beyond the
neck collar.
Pit waivers for adults and minors are available tonight. Please get your
cards and fill them out tonight.
Age for pits must be 14 years or older per Roger VD and insurance
Please try to buy tickets for sponsor appreciation soon
Parking log jams; please let us know if you have more than one car and we
will try to do the best we can to accommodate, but we are not making any
promises at this time, due to the extra cars this year.
Rule books??? They will be ordered after tonight…pending no more changes
are made.
Crate motor options for rebuilding--any ASA rebuilder..need seal and
paperwork turned in. We will also be working with Bruce at B &B. FRRC will
buy seals and our tech inspectors will witness the rebuild process. This is
the starting point. We may add more options at some point, but for now it is
just B &B and the certified ASA rebuilders. A copy of the invoice of what
was done on the motor will suffice.
Pat Braun suggested we change the sizzlin’4’s name to “stock cars” for
future years.
50/50 winner was None—the winner from last week never showed up to sell
tickets
Motion to adjourn was made by Shane Bahr seconded by Randy Piontek
Meeting adjourned at 7:50 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, September27th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL
MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, March 22, 2010
TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:10 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Marty Nussbaum .
Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Brandon Conrad, seconded by Hank Calmes . Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Employee meeting will be this Saturday. All appropriate parties have been
contacted
Rule changes we are hoping are finally final.
Jerry asked for feedback on bylaw recommendations. All hands raised were in
favor.
None were opposed
Added an extra car for the YMCA car show--Mike Meyerhoffer
Jerry said we will use Tom Gee’s hauler as a sort of “big red trailer” for
disciplinary procedures.
Mike Springstroh and Hank Calmes suggested we keep the rules the same or
lock them in. Hank
further suggested that if someone recommends that if someone wants to
suggest a rule change they should come up front and suggest what they are
recommended and vote on it. Mike Springstroh made a motion that we lock in
the rules with the term of the President. Mike Kelly seconded that Motion.
We will vote on this after we discuss and decide on the tire rule first
tonight.
Roger Van Daalwyk suggested we stick with the same tires for the LM and LLM
tire rule.
Brad Buss said he talked to Wayne at Slinger and they plan to test the new
tire, but keep the tire
rule the same. So, he hates to say that Slinger is for sure doing one tire
or another tire at this time.
Terry Korth said that the LS motor with a 2 barrel has more horsepower than
a 9:1. Bob Abitz said
it has less horsepower on 2 barrel
Back to tire rule……Brad discussed the differences in the tire compound and
talked about the
difference in the testing. He thinks the new tire will last longer, but it
may reduce passing.
Brad suggested that we keep the tire rule the same and add an amendment to
change it if the
testing we do show that this is a better tire.
Tim Rothe suggested the few that want to run the new tires, that we should
allow them the first few weeks to see how they do.
Jerry suggested that we do some R and D this year with the new tires and
also stick with the old
ones.
Memberships still on sale tonight and until April when the price goes up.
NEW BUSINESS
Proposed Probationary Status was read off and feedback was given.
Jesse Oudenhoven asked if this is just for ON TRACK incidents, or also for
actions in the pits.
Competition products and Howards will now be associate sponsors and give out
gift certificates as awards. All cars who want to be eligible need to
display the decal.
Mike Kelly read off some rule changes that are still wrong on the internet.
Andy Monday was asking about what mufflers are suggested for side exhaust to
keep db below the new law.
Jerry re-visited the motion to lock the rules in for 2 years made by Mike
Springstroh.
Proposed Order of Events read off for 2010.…
Brad Buss suggested that cars go right in line instead of pick a lane….Jerry
said we don’t want to do that, as it puts guys in the outside lane that
don’t want to be there and more crashed happen.
Marty suggested the pace car become the cone for pick a lane. Jerry said
instead we’d like the pace car to stop or slow way down and have the guys
still pick a lane the old way.
Tom Schweitzer asked about adjusted points for 4 cylinders with the new
heats and all. Jerry said Clint will throw together a proposal and present
it.
A motion was made to keep the rules the same for this year and next year and
only add amendments if deemed fit. Almost everyone voted to lock them in and
only one person voted to not lock them in.
50/50 winner was Tim Van Grinsvan $32
Motion to adjourn was made by Tom Hockers seconded by Randy Piontek
Meeting adjourned at 8:24pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, April 26th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, February 22,
2010 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:08 pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Ed Howard, seconded by Chris Shields . Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Dennis Baldry, seconded by Ed Howard. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Rules will be posted on the website for a month with changes for 2010 in red
and green.
Please e-mail us or contact us if you feel we missed anything
New logo for 2010; We will order stickers for fast qualifier, etc to replace
old Fivestar ones.
Employee meeting in March
Audit Committee…if we abolish this, who will audit the club????? We are
looking for volunteers
2010 Audit Committee will be: Dennis Baldy, Ed Howard, Gordie Sannes, Hank
Calmes, with
help from Cheryl Schneider.
NEW BUSINESS
2010/2011 Bylaw walkthrough done by Jerry again for the second time with the
changes. These will also be posted on the website for a month with changes
in red. We will vote on them next month, so please look them over.
Eugene Ciferno asked about practice nights in May. To our knowledge this
deal is still on.
Need volunteers for Healthy kids day at Neenah YMCA on May 1st 9:30am--1pm.
Please see Clint after the meeting.
Mike Kelly asked about pick-a-lane procedures. Jerry said it will be done
the same way as last year, but 2 restarts per feature instead of one.
Extended features 3 instead of 2.
Decibel levels will be tested at practice day in case any adjustments need
to be made.
Larry is selling memberships tonight.
Randy Sonkowsky said he doesn’t like the unlimited mirror rule proposal.
Rules for mirrors will be the same as 2009, NOT UNLIMITED.
LLM tire rules. Mike Springstroh suggested allowing 2 new tires the second
night.
Todd Verhagen spoke about how he doesn’t like the new tire and would like us
to keep the same tire as last year. Mike Kelly suggested we follow suit if
most other tracks are on this new tire. We will talk to Brad from Genal’s
further about it. Mark Ritger said Slinger is going to keep the 75’s.
Marty Nussbaum said other people should change to OUR rules, not us changing
to other’s rules. Jerry said he will talk to Brad about the tires we are
running. Chris Shields suggested we vote on it and Jerry said we would only
do this if we knew what our options are. Without Brad being here, it is hard
to vote on anything.
Marty Nussbaum questioned the contact rule.
Pat Braun had commented that black flags for aggressive driving should not
be return to the track. We agreed.
Bill Fisher asked about the car show idea. We will check with Judi Monday.
Tim Rothe questioned why the LM crate motor be allowed with the racing oil
pan. Jerry said as long as they have an inspection plug, so we can police
them.
Ed Howard suggested if people have a complaint, they should also have an
idea on how things could improve instead of just complaining about things.
Brandon Conrad asked what the reason was for changing the oil pan and
allowing this racing oil pan. Advisory vote for 12 LLM TEAMS 6-0 in favor of
NOT allowing the oil pan.
A vote was requested for LM TEAMS to allow the racing oil pan. 12 LM teams
present. A vote was taken and it was 12-0 in favor of NOT allowing the
racing oil pan. So, the LM crate motor oil pan needs to remain stock, as
well.
Terry Korth asked about the tires for LM’s stay the same, as well. Terry
asked about the 25# again. We voted several times and will look at possibly
adjusting after two weeks.
Tim Rothe said that to his knowledge the new tire compound is a premium tire
for the same price and more LM teams travel.
ADVISORY VOTES for what direction to go in for the tire rule. This is the
direction we will pursue with Brad Buss
LLM 75’s---9 800’s ---2
LM 35/45----2 40/50---9
Marty Nussbaum suggested we look into why a car is so much faster instead of
increasing the .650 rule. Jason Schultz suggested that because we made
enough changes and recommendations, we should just run with what we have
already proposed.
Suggestions were made to lock the rules in for two years.
Willy Van Camp suggested we have FRRC queen or think about it like the
Slinger pageant.
Mark Ritger suggested we look at improving more bleachers.
Tom Schweitzer asked about spectator eliminator. Jerry said we already have
time issues.
Jerry asked for suggestions about Red, White and Blue races…..Mike
Springstroh suggested odd/even qualifying races instead of last chance
races.
Tim Rothe suggested that getting the races done early is a good thing and
the earlier the better. He said we should shoot for being done by 9:30pm or
10pm. Tom Hockers said any time we take an intermission or slow things down,
things get lazy
Gordie Sannes asked about what the format would be for sizzlin’ 4’s He
suggested we run a second feature later in the night if we run 2 features.
Bill Fischer had said that communication with getting the outer pits ready
to hit the track has been a problem in the past.
Beat the Winter Blues Party #6 will be at the Pit Stop on Saturday, 3/20/10
starting at 8pm
50/50 winner was Jason Schultz $22
Motion to adjourn was made by Shane Bahr seconded by Sawyer Effertz
Meeting adjourned at 8:31pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, March 22nd at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, January 25, 2010 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:08pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Andy Monday. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· Crate Auction. several bids were placed with the eventual auction winner being Jeff Tisler who purchased the motor for $5,500
· 1099’s and W-2’s are now available.
· Bylaw changes were read off for 2010/2011. This will be brought up next month for a motion to accept them.
· Rule change recommendations were read off. I will not be putting them in the meeting minutes, only the feedback and summary of the discussions from the floor about the debated ones. The rest of them will appear on the website once the rules have all been finalized.
PROCEDURAL CHANGES
· If qualifying is rained out…no dice roll, just invert 8 cars. made sense to us.
· Gordie Sannes suggested that Matt Panure keep the crowd up to speed on all rule changes, so they know what is going on.
LM RULE CHANGES
· Several LM teams questioned why we are considering adding weight to the 9:1 motors when it had already been discussed in the past to NOT add weight. An advisory vote was taken from the LM teams present. 6 were for keeping the weights the same from last year and NOT to add the weight and 7 votes TO ADD the 25# to the 9 to 1 motors. Taken under advisement.
· The LS motor was clarified as being ONLY the Wegner LS motor, not other engine builders LS projects.
· Evan Carpenter questioned the new db level reduction which is being proposed for BOTH LM AND LLM classes…basically what will the punishment be for breaking it? 1 week to fix it. We are still discussing how stiff the penalties will be. John Meidam questioned if the new 95db is too low and asked us to re-look at that. Jerry said he would check on the numbers that BOB took last year and base it off of that.
TIRES
· Brad Buss discussed that several tracks are switching to f40 and f50’s for LM tires and 800 series LLM tires. Brad is recommending that if we switch our LLM tires to 800 series that we keep the SS cars on that same tire to keep costs down. The 800 series tire is slightly slower, but also $7 cheaper. It has a minimum of 10% better wear than the 75, as it is a harder tire. Brad fielded several Q and A from various drivers on the new proposed tires.
LLM RULE CHANGES
· Mike Kelly questioned the quick change rear end rule change. His comments were taken under advisement.
· Transponder location feedback…needs to be 8 inches from front of rear end, as Port City chassis have a different location for the squaring tab.
· Required paperwork for crate motors…questions were brought up if the motor rebuilder is no longer in business. We will discuss this further, but there are a LOT of ASA LM crate motor rebuilders.
· Joe Nichodem questioned why the old unported motor that was 2850 is now only 2800 and thinks we are opening a can of worms by doing this. It was explained that they have to run by ALL THE BIG EIGHT RULES, which will not be to their advantage and that is why the weight was changed. Jerry added that weights can be adjusted if we feel the need to do so.
SS RULE CHANGES
· Greg Hauser questioned why we would get rid of team driving when it has been there for years and why it wasn’t voted on. Jerry explained that it was a bylaw change meant to be fair to ALL classes and not single one out. Advisory vote of SS drivers 12 voted to keep team driving and 0 were opposed. Taken under advisement. NO substitute driving will be allowed either way.
SIZZLIN 4 CHANGES
· Lead must be bolted IN the car, not underneath…
· Pat Braun questioned having to use too new of belts for this class. We will leave the 2005 belts or newer, unless the inspector feels it is new or close to new.
· Brady Bennett asked about adding extra mirrors. There will NOT be a limit on mirrors in this class. If “blocking” becomes an issue, it will be addressed for that particular driver.
· Tom Schweitzer questioned what would happen to last years bounty money. We are not sure yet, but we probably wont be doing a bounty this year, as we are looking at qualifying races and a feature for 2010 in this division.
NEW BUSINESS
50/50 winner was Brad Buss $52
Motion to adjourn was made by Ed Howard, seconded by Marty Nussbaum
Meeting adjourned at 9:44 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, February 22nd at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING
NOTES
DATE: Monday, November 30, 2009 TIME: 7
pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:05pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Lowell Bennett, seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Kurt Schweitzer, seconded by Mike Butz. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• Five Star certificates were awarded to Mark Schroeder, Brett Piontek and
Todd Verhagen
• Crate Motor auction to be done at the January meeting. Still deciding on
the reserve amount.
• In 2010 decibel readings will be taken often, so heed the warning and get
better mufflers. Judi Monday volunteered as part of her commitment to the
Board of Directors to take the readings.
NEW BUSINESS/TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• Bylaws and procedural issues---Pick a lane procedures; Several members
voiced in opinions on ways we should improve this process. After members
voiced their opinions on this, Jerry took an advisory vote on whether or not
we want to increase the amount of double file restarts. 34 for and 2
against. It was decided that we will try to have 2 double file restarts for
normal weeks and 3 for extended features, as well as NONE remaining when we
reach 5 laps to go. The officers could change this and decrease this amount
depending on how the night is going time-wise. Heats will all remain single
file restarts.
• Mike Kelly questioned the contact rule and suggested a “gentlemen’s rule”
so a driver can take accountability without punishing another driver who was
in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was taken under advisement and will
be discussed with our 2010 flagman.
• Mike Butz suggested different vantage points for our spotters or more of
them to see more of the track. Jerry said we would work on placing most/all
of the spotters on the outside of the track for better views, rather than
adding more spotters.
• Greg Hauser asked about team driving in other divisions and how the
championship points are awarded. Jerry said the verbiage certainly needs to
be cleaned up in the bylaws which address that part. The officers at this
time are not in favor of team driving in other divisions, nor is the tower.
• Dennis Stebane mentioned that the Board of Directors had a meeting and
will be presenting the officers with some suggested wording changes to our
bylaws prior to the next meeting.
• Lowell Bennett suggested we consider a “throw out night” for the
cumulative point standings for things that could come up during a long
season. Lots of different opinions for and opposed were voiced. Other ideas
which stemmed from this were double points for R, W and B, or for the last
night, a one night substitute driver rule, race of champions, etc. No
definite changes were decided on at this time. All ideas were taken under
advisement. Jerry suggested we try to keep things as similar to last year as
possible, as it was a great year.
• Andy Monday suggested scrapping hot laps prior to each race, basically
giving the cars a couple slow laps under caution when they pull out and then
go green without the fast hot laps. He said other tracks do this, so it is
do-able, especially for the heat races. This could save us some time in the
night.
• LLM rules---Evan Carpenter suggested they stay the same as last year.
Jerry shared that the LLM drivers had a meeting and the only changes they
are recommending are: Any unported motor that wants to run has to run by ALL
THE BIG 8 RULES at the weight of 2800# and no penalties. This is ONLY IF
they follow ALL Big Eight rules EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE WRITTEN FOR EVERY PART
ON THE CAR. There is also some verbiage that needs to be cleaned up on rear
ends.
• Sizzlin 4’s---Pat Braun asked about their proposed changes. Dennis Baldry
will be presenting these to the officers and we will review them and make a
decision on them soon.
• LM Rules---Again a reminder to get the decibel levels down, as we will be
much stricter with this in 2010. Tim Rothe suggested we keep the same rules
as 2009. Lowell Bennett questioned why we couldn’t consider adding the LS
motor to the rules package and Mark Schroeder questioned if the weight for a
9 to 1 was fair in comparison to the ACE motor weight. Jerry mentioned that
perhaps the Late Model drivers want to meet again. It was decided that they
would meet right after the general meeting to make some decisions about
this, as over half of the late model teams were present and everyone had an
opportunity to be at the general meeting to give opinions.
• A marketing group was formed made up of volunteers; thus far Marty
Nussbaum, Jerry Quella and Amber Bahr have volunteered to join Judi’s group.
Others can contact Judi directly if they would like to join.
50/50 winner was Al Golueke $41
Motion to adjourn was made by Mike Butz, seconded by Marty Nussbaum
Meeting adjourned at 8:46 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, January 25th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, October 26,
2009 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:06pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Josh Jeske, seconded by Mike Springstroh. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Judi asked for clarification on the sport truck points fund; Jerry explained
this and also that there was a dilemma with the figure eight points fund, as
many of these drivers don’t buy memberships.
Motion to accept made by Dennis Stebane, seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• Additional write in names for Secretary: none////Additional write in names
for President: none
Election votes were taken. Majority winners were Clint Smith-secretary/Jerry
Schneider-president
• Jerry reiterated that the crate motor auction will be done in January and
there WILL BE a reserve on the motor.
• November meeting WOULD take place during hunting season…is everyone ok
with this??? After some discussion from the floor, an advisory vote was
taken. 32 hands raised FOR November 30th and none opposed.
• Rules discussions—each division should set up a committee to get
preliminary discussions started.
NEW BUSINESS/TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• Terry Korth asked for an update on tire tests. Jerry said we got the
tires, but Oshkosh truck did their own testing at WIR and tore up turns 3
and 4 pretty bad. Jerry said it will not get done yet this season. Jerry
also said that Hoosier told him they will make whatever tire we want them
to. Mike Springstroh said he heard the grooved tire was a harder compound
and suggested only I tire every week for the LLM class, even after the R, W
and B races.
• Terry Korth suggested LM’s keep the same tires, as he felt there was equal
racing and a lot of different winners. Tim Rothe said some Big 8 cars had
grooved Hoosier tires on at LaX, so we could seek out folks from there for
feedback. He also suggested we keep the 32nd on the tires that they took off
½ way through last year.
• Lowell Bennett said this is the first year that nobody seems to be
complaining about tires, so why would we want to ruin a good thing.
• Jerry stated that many tracks are going to Big Eight rules for LLM cars
and that this is something we should think about. He added that in the LM
division, we may want to look at a fair weight for the LS motor and crate
motor option, as well.
• Jerry suggested we make as little changes as possible, as most folks felt
it was a great year.
• Scott Stebane asked about travelers that don’t fit our rulebook..Should
they be allowed to compete?? Jerry said we should offer a fair weight for up
to 3 races, so they can do the R, W and B 3 race series. Todd Verhagen said
if a motor option comes that is not in the LLM rules, it should have to be
run as a LM.
• Hank Calmes suggested that Big Eight cars run by Big Eight rules and FRRC
crate LLM’s run by our rules. Jerry said that is a great idea, but it is a
discussion to be had among the LLM folks. Hank also suggested having a
“rules committee” together for both the ½ mile and a separate one for the ¼
mile divisions to oversee recommendations to make sure they are not costing
the racer more money than deemed necessary.
• Tim Rothe questioned why we don’t just keep the rules the same, as it
seems to be working well as it is. Jerry said he would be fine with that,
but there are just a few bylaws and procedure “fine tuning” that still needs
to be done, separate from the divisional rules. Terry Korth thinks the only
LM rule that should be changed is the side exhaust. Several other members
said that Coleman makes a VERY quiet exhaust and muffler. Shane Bahr
questioned if side exhaust was tested and messages relayed. This WAS indeed
done, but folks tried to play games with it.
• Several members volunteered for rules committees: LLM/LM—Dennis Stebane;
Mike Springstroh; Tim Satorius; Hank Calmes; Tim Rothe; Scott Vandermolen;
Raz; Terry Korth; Mike Kelly and Brent Strelka….1/4 mile---Gordie Sannes; Ed
Howard; Greg Hauser; Tim Lowe and Katie Braun.
• Andy Monday made a motion to have the fans vote for the best appearing car
award either at the track or on the website. Jerry said this is a good idea,
but would have to be changed in the bylaws.
• Judi Monday suggested that an “ideas group” be formed to offer suggestions
to the officers and the general body (increasing fans; raffle license, etc,
etc) The officers liked this idea a lot.
• Dennis asked if a new 2010 Board of Directors could be formed and it was
by volunteers. The 2010 B-O-D is:
LM-Andy Monday
LLM-Dennis Stebane
SS-Ed Howard
ST-Robb Vandermoss
S4-Randy Sonkowsky
F8-Mike Meyerhofer
WIR-Dave Valentyne
Audit-Gordie Sannes
Former Officer-Judi Monday
• Jerry said he would like to talk more about race-ceivers, but the
discussion went to the flagman. Some members questioned if we would be
bringing back Pat in 2010. Hank Calmes suggested that we let the flagman do
his job and not let others try to make the call. Jerry said that after
issues were addressed with Pat, he seemed to enforce the rough driving and
making a call and not listen to other folks on the radio besides the
spotters.
• Gordie Sannes suggested putting the flagman back up on the tower as it is
a better view. Mike Springstroh suggested that instead of putting the
flagman up there, we should make a hauler height rule. Lowell Bennett said
we could also consider the dragstrip. Jesse Oudenhoven said that a part of
the reason why we are doing well this year is because the fans get to come
down afterwards because the pits are so close. Randy Sonkowsky suggested we
stage the ¼ mile haulers on the ½ mile, so the outer pits can have more fan
interaction. Jerry said he does not have a problem with this. Josh Jeske
said being in the big pits has more fans than being staged on the ½ mile
track. Josh suggested staging haulers on the ½ mile until the figure eights
are done and then swing them unto the ¼ mile afterwards.
• Pat Braun suggested a points fund for the 4 cylinder division. Jerry said
we should add them in. Judi said this division was added as a novelty
division but they have now become a legitimate division. Pat also questioned
what we should do if the car count increases too much. Jerry added colorful
humor and said we’ll cross that bridge when we get there.
50/50 winner was Chris Shields $42
Motion to adjourn was made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Tim Rothe
Meeting adjourned at 8:21 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, November 30th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, September 28,
2009 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Starlite Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:09pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Marty Nussbaum, seconded by Tom Gee Sr.. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Randy Sonkowsky.
Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• Jerry shared that this meeting, future meetings and the Banquet will ALL
be at the Starlite Club; Darboy Club didn’t offer us the best deal anymore,
so this new location was set up. We are open to feedback along the way.
• Jerry announced that Banquet Tickets UP TO October 3rd are $10 each. AFTER
that, they go up to $15 and October 10th is the absolute deadline to get
banquet tickets. The Banquet is on October 17th at the Starlite Club
• Additional Nominations for Secretary and President were taken. No
additional nominations were made. Current nominations were reviewed:
Secretary—Clint Smith and President—Jerry Schneider. Nominations closed.
Write ins will be accepted at the October meeting.
• Jerry announced that sheets were available after the meeting to vote for
best appearing car in like divisions.
NEW BUSINESS
• Crate Motor Auction; Jerry announced that all money from this will go into
the GENERAL FRRC funds and towards the points fund for the whole club. After
a lengthy discussion with several different opinions being offered, it was
decided by an advisory vote of 22 to 2 to keep the motor and do the auction
after the first of the year to help next year’s points fund, as this year’s
is doing just fine already. It was also decided that LLM cars that paid for
a sticker for the Gandrud sponsorship could seek their money back for that
sticker, as the money is going to the club and not just the LLM cars who had
the sticker.
• Jerry said RULES will NOT be talked about or addressed until we have the
2009 Elected officers in place…
• Jerry stated behavior and respect in the pits needs to improve for next
year, or memberships will be pulled and full teams will be suspended, not
just individuals. Drivers/owners need to lasso up their crews for 2010.
Terry Korth commented that officers and employees should also know the rules
before trying to enforce them, like the situation of not working on the car
under red flag, which was never in the rule book. Jerry said we will look
over the rule book and make decisions on it.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• Dan Carpenter said the crate motor took too long to prepare. Jerry agreed.
Jerry also added that the FRRC was charged $750 for dyno’ing the three
motors, so roughly $250 each.
• Mike Kelly asked if a rules committee could start meeting in certain
divisions yet. Jerry said they can meet, but no decisions will be made until
AFTER elections.
• Jerry brought up that there will be tire testing done on possible
different Hoosier tires; There have been some done at the Dells and more to
be done at WIR. Tim Rothe and Lowell Bennett will take part in this testing.
• Jerry mentioned that additional banquet set up help can always be used on
Saturday morning around 9am at the Starlite Club. We are also seeking barrel
sponsors at $165 each.
• Randy Sonkowsky asked what would happen to the bonus money for the 4
cylinders that was never won. Jerry said it hasn’t been discussed yet, but
with more cars migrating from 141 in that division next year, we may plug it
into next year in some way.
• Jerry stated a reminder that banquet tickets are on sale tonight and the
deadline will be enforced.
50/50 winner was Robb Vandermoss $53
Motion to adjourn was made by Dan Carpenter, seconded by Andy Monday
Meeting adjourned at 7:44 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, October 26th at 7pm at the Starlite Club
DATE: Monday, April 27, 2009
TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:09pm.
Clint gave the Secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Ed Howard, seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Jack Pankratz. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• Employees meeting took place. We are hiring back almost all the same
employees with the addition of Lumpy to the tech crew.
• Membership goes up $25 a piece after this meeting
• Schedules are available for placement at local businesses.
• Minor release forms are available and insurance forms for pit entry
• Schedule Update---still have the second night of the season open, without
sponsorship as well as the last two weeks, which we are still working on
trying to cover.
• Nightly booklets are filled. Clint needs updates for drivers and updated
ads by May 10th, so they can get to the printer on time.
• Rules ARE updated on the website; They are located on the divisions page.
NEW BUSINESS
• Beway will NOT be returning in 2009, due to the fact that not enough
people bought gas or parts from him in 2008. So, please come to the track
prepared with gas and parts. I anyone knows of a different parts truck we
can contact to come to the track, contact an officer right away.
• First Tuesday night practice starts on May 5th; Our club’s practice day is
Saturday, May 23rd from 10am—4pm.
TOPICS FROM FLOOR
• See Ron Magdanz or Bud Collar if you are interested in race-ceivers
• O-Reilly Auto Parts rep was present and announced that there would be
discounts available at the Little Chute and South Appleton locations for
drivers interested in buying race car parts from there. Other parts will not
be discounted. Show your membership card at these stores if buying parts.
50/50 winner was Ed Howard $69
Motion to adjourn was made by Derek Schmidt, seconded by Barnaby Tomazevic
Meeting adjourned at 7:32 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, September 28th at 7pm at the Darboy Club
DATE: Monday, March 23, 2009 TIME: 7
pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:07pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Tim Rothe. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Ed Howard, seconded by Dave Moderson. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• If you win the 50/50 award; please show up early the following week to
sell tickets. It is a common courtesy to do this after winning money from
your fellow club members.
• Jerry mentioned that memberships are on sale again tonight and reminded
everyone that after the April 27th meeting all memberships will go UP $25 a
piece…no exceptions. They can also be printed from the internet website and
mailed to:
FRRC, Inc. W4550 Schmidt Rd, Kaukauna, WI 54130
• Schedule updates: FOX 11 will be sponsoring our opener and we may have two
more sponsors. Roger is working with the Thillmany union for a night and Tim
Rothe’s uncle may be taking a night. If both of these work out, it would
leave us with only the last week unsponsored, which could be used for a rain
date.
NEW BUSINESS/ TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• FRRC is pursuing a possible collaboration with Slinger (figure eights) and
Norway (late models) for 2009. More details as they come.
• We need approximately 3 cars total to appear at Healthy Kids day at the
Neenah YMCA. Interested parties should contact Clint asap. So far, all he
has is some maybe’s.
• We still have some open advertising spots in the nightly fliers. Please
see Clint to get in the flier. This is a GREAT way to thank all your
sponsors and get them some more business and it is VERY affordable. All
proceeds go to the FRRC general funds.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• We are working with Gandrud to be our LLM divisional sponsor and have a
night in the pavilion in exchange for a crate motor that the club can use
and sell at year’s end.
• Practice Day will be May 23rd
• Jim Kemkes asked if divisional sponsors should be put on every car in a
particular division. Jerry said we don’t have any problem with this, as long
as the sponsor provides the stickers or decals, as otherwise it costs the
drivers or the club more money. The only other alternative would be to
charge more to be a divisional sponsor if the club had to make the decals.
• Dave Moderson had questions about the FOX 11 sponsorship. Jerry explained
that this would all be made up of trading advertising space. Most
commercials will appear close to the start of race season, if not before
then.
• Brad Buss mentioned that some tracks will be looking at changing to 60/40
weight balance for 2009 (WCS, Marshfield, etc) A short discussion occurred
and it was decided that we will stick with the 58/42, as it is getting too
close to race season to change it now, plus ASA Midwest, Norway and Slinger
are all still 58/42, too. Brad also mentioned he has some tires now, but
will start getting a lot more in 2 weeks.
• Brad also mentioned that the FRRC will now be awarded 40 tires as part of
our allotment from Hoosier, as we are getting the Red, White and Blue ones
now, too. Jerry mentioned that we are considering using some of those for
contingency awards for the 2009 season. We have not finalized that part yet.
• Tom Gee, sr. asked if we had a tentative R, W and B payout done yet. Jerry
said tentatively yes, but it still needs to be looked over by the audit
committee. It has $1,500 to win and $450 to start right now. We also added
some extra $$$ to the semi-feature cars, as well. We are not planning on
running fast dashes on those nights, as they were just for pay and made the
cars in them be at a disadvantage for heat cycles, etc for the feature.
• Ray Gardner suggested adding more practice time if we are seriously
considering cutting out the dashes on those nights. It was taken under
advisement.
• Terry Korth said we shouldn’t allow testing on race day; Jerry said that
is up to Roger, as he owns the track. We don’t rent if until we open the
gates on Thursday.
• Don Oudenhoevn asked about the entertainment R, W and B coupons. Jerry
said Roger doesn’t want to honor them. Jerry said that WIR will have to put
up a sign before the season starts and keep it up all year that those
coupons will NOT be honored, so there are no surprises on those nights.
• Dennis Dietzen asked how the lineups would be determined for the features.
Jerry explained the same way we always do, but there would be extra cars
added if we hit certain benchmarks as far as car counts on those nights.
• Beway- We are hoping Beway will be returning in 2009. But, we need to make
sure folks are buying gas, etc from him or it doesn’t make sense for him to
come all the way here to lose money each week.
• Robb vandermoss said the sport trucks will have a band in the pits on July
2nd for a racer’s party.
50/50 winner was Andy Monday $20
Motion to adjourn was made by Ed Howard, seconded by Tom Gee Sr. Meeting
adjourned at 7:38 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, April 27th at 7pm at the Darboy Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, February 23, 2009 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:05pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Bill Fischer. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Marty Nussbaum, seconded by Mike Springstroh. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· Jerry mentioned that we can use all the help we can get for nightly sponsors, as we still have too many open nights on the calendar.
· No other candidates were announced as write ins, so a raise of hands vote was taken for the Treasurer position. 69 votes for Larry MacArthur to be the new Treasurer and no hands raised as opposed.
· Red, White and Blue Series update: Nothing major has changed since last meeting; We still need to talk to Roger about advertising for the series.
· Rule changes for 2009 are posted on the internet and rulebooks will be printed soon.
· Tire Scanner-we should have more details at the next meeting
· Employees meeting more than likely in March; Clint will make calls once the date is set.
NEW BUSINESS/ TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
· Dave Moderson asked about the price for the fans for R, W and B series, as Roger’s website says $13; Jerry clarified, it is $9; Jerry said we still need to discuss the entertainment coupons with Roger, as we don’t want to take a loss on that part, but do feel they need to be honored in some way.
· John Meidam asked for details of the 2009 R, W and B series. (Pay, tires, etc); There was a lengthy discussion with lots of pros and cons discussed. Advisory vote taken on LM tires. Two options OPTION 1---3 tires night of and 3 the next week---no votes
OPTION 2---4 tires and keep LM tires locked up—12 votes
· Hank Calmes asked for details info on how the 50/50 raffles are run by FRRC as well as on the EVE and Jerry explained. Mark Ritger also offered insight on how La Crosse runs their 50/50 raffle. Hank was thinking we should look into some way of getting Roger to consider matching the club or somehow find a way to make improvements to the track, namely the PA system and speakers.
· Jerry stated that we have four open nights yet and are pursuing leads for them, but can always use additional leads. It was brought up that Roger’s website says the opener is May 21st, when in actuality, it is May 28th.
· Mark Ritger suggested we collaborate with Chris Slack on a car show
· Jerry clarified that no divisions will stay home for the Red, White and Blue series any more, as we are running the triple crown format and adding 25 laps to the LM feature, but the other divisions will not be doing extended features on those nights.
· Ron Magdanz mentioned that any SS or sizzlin’ 4 drivers needing race-ceivers should try to go through him, as he can get a discount on bulk ordering.
· Kurt Schweitzer had a question about the SS carb rule and was directed to look on the website where all the rule changes are listed.
50/50 winner was Jim Warning $51
Motion to adjourn was made by Shane Bahr, seconded by Andy Monday Meeting adjourned at 7:41 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, March 23rd at 7pm at the Darboy Club
Clint mentioned that the 6th annual ‘Beat the Winter Blues Party” will be on Saturday, March 7th at the Pit Stop at 8pm. This is typically a well attended event for fans and teams to reminisce about last season and preview the new one. Discounts on drinks will be taken after getting a wristband when you arrive.
GENERAL
MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, January 26,
2009 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:04pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Evan Carpenter. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report; Jerry also explained that we had
an unplanned expenditure for workman’s comp
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Terry Miller. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• Additional nominations were taken for the open Treasurer position. None
were made. We will still accept write in candidates at the February meeting
where we will hold an election. Larry MacArthur is the only current
nominated party
• Jerry read off W.I.R.’s proposal to FRRC for us to take over the Red,
White and Blue series for 2009 and possibly beyond. He was very reasonable
in what he was offering and recommended that if we do take it over that we
not run them after a Thursday night show on the weekend, as two races in
three days is hard to lure fans to the track.
• Rule changes are posted on the website. There was one small error with SS
carbs—SS motors that are NOT vortecs and under 383 c.i. CAN use 4brl carbs
without adding extra weight.
• Larry Sebeck asked about the call in rule for missing an event. Jerry said
we took a vote and it was abolished.
• Jerry mentioned that our insurance company says it is up to us on the
safety belts, but they would recommend going by manufacturer’s
recommendations, which are SFI (Simpson) 2 years and FIA belts 5 years.
NEW BUSINESS
• 1099/W-2’s are now available
• We are taking volunteers for the advertising committee; see Jerry after
the meeting if you are interested.
• Buying a Tire scanner was discussed; various folks gave different opinions
on why they felt we needed one or didn’t need one; We are still considering
this option. Andy Monday asked what we would do if it broke and Jerry said
we would go back to the old way temporarily; Hank Calmes suggested we let
the 2009 tech crew decide if it is a piece of equipment hat would help them
or not and go from there.
Advisory vote taken---For buying the scanner 41; against buying it ZERO
• Clint will be calling potential employees for a February or March meeting
in February.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• Andy Monday asked about increased payout for Red, White and Blue series
races; Jerry said Roger estimated that he could free up $14,000 from our
yearly contract to be able to make the races very intriguing; Dave Stammer
asked how we would get travelers if we are considering a 3 tire rule-Jerry
explained that what we originally planned was a 4 tire show, but after
discussing it more recently we are now thinking of allowing 3 new tires THAT
night as well as three tires the following week, so it would equate to the
same tire allotment as four tires the night of the event. We will check
tires on travelers the same way we currently do when one shows up. Larry
Sebeck asked if we would allow travelers to come earlier to test; Jerry said
that is up to Roger and Dave.
• Jerry said we will probably not be increasing the top gate this year due
to the struggling economy, but we are still thinking about it.
• Jerry Quella asked if there is still discussion of a support division
taking a night off at the Red, White and Blue races if they are on Thursday
night.; Jerry said we are still considering this for financial and time
reasons but have not made any decisions.
• Todd Verhagen suggested running the LLM feature before the LM feature on
R, W and B nights, so the big show is towards the end. Jerry said we could
consider this.
• Jerry mentioned that we lost a few sponsors from last year and now have 6
open nights. We need help from the general club body to get these nights
sponsored or our points fund will be down considerably this year. He also
said we are thinking about dumping the first Thursday, May 21st race to help
with this lack of sponsored nights as this is usually one of our worst
financial nights where we take a huge loss every year any time we run when
school is still in session. We also lost Bergstrom, who was our $2,000 Late
Model sponsor.
Advisory Vote- FOR dumping May 21st off the schedule 23; against dumping it
1
Jerry said we will take this under advisement, but if we get some sponsors
to step up soon, we could still run on May 21st, but we will have to decide
soon. So, send sponsors our way..the sooner the better.
• Mike Meyerhoffer had questions about the Gandrud series: Jerry mentioned
it is dead, but we are still interested in collaborating with Gandrud on
other possible cross promotions, possibly involving the crate motor program
in the LLM division; Mark Ritger also said he talked to Chris Slack from
Gandrud and he was in favor of staying involved with WIR and possibly
sponsoring the SS division this year again.
• Jerry also clarified that the ACE radios are NOT a requirement, but simply
an option for the ½ mile divisions; Interested parties should contact Bud
Collar for more info.
• John Meidam asked for clarification on the Red, White and Blue series;
Jerry mentioned that it is almost a certainty that they will be run on
Thursday nights in place of the Triple Crown Series. All the details are
still being hashed out and we still need to run it past our audit committee.
There is still the problem of the Entertainment book coupons to decide on
yet, too. The dates would be June 11, July 16, and August 13
• Dave Valentyne said the tire allotment will also need to be discussed with
genals.
• Top gate price was brought up again
Advisory Vote- gate to stay the same as last year---a LOT of hands/ raising
to $10-none
• Mark Ritger suggested we condense support division races for Red, White
and Blue race nights, instead of leaving them out, especially if we shorten
the season. Jerry said if we reduce the season to 15 nights, we may not want
to leave anyone sit on those nights.
• Memberships were started tonight
50/50 winner was Bob Abitz $53
Motion to adjourn was made by the Andy Monday, seconded by Dan Carpenter
Meeting adjourned at 7:56 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, February 23rd at 7pm at the Darboy Club
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, November 17, 2008 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:01pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Dennis Stebane. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Bill Fischer, seconded by Dave Valentyne. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· Elected Treasurer Marty Nussbaum has resigned from the Treasurer position. Nominations for this open positions were taken. Larry Mac Arthur was nominated and accepted the nomination. No Other nominations were made
· Jerry updated the club that we met with Roger but were unable to come to terms with any type of deal yet. We collectively want the Red, White and Blue series to be run on Thursdays next year. We may consider combining them with the Triple Crown races and roll it over to the next week if there is a rainout. Much legwork will still have to be done on this topic before any decisions are made. Dave Moderson mentioned that more tires on events could cost more money. Bill Fischer asked if we thought we could fit all divisions in. Jerry said we are considering having a supporting division take a night off and rotating that between our three support divisions on the ¼ mile.
· Jerry mentioned that we are weighing out our options and seriously considering raising the top gate admission to $10 and $5. We are also considering a possible age change. Ron Magdanz asked when the last time the gate price was changed and nobody could even remember.
· John Meidam suggested adding an extra week in September. Jerry said if there are too many rainouts, we could consider that idea. Lowell Bennett said every track struggles miserably to get fans after Labor Day. Lowell suggested a rain date on a Saturday in September for the championship point’s night. Dave Moderson added that we could have an EVE preview with a division from the EVE running that night (ex: Bus Race) Tim Rothe suggested having it be a double points night to spice it up and make the stakes higher to draw fans, or even a triple points night, if there are three rainouts or more.
· Jerry mentioned that we want to add Lumpy to our tech crew for 2009 to increase man power in the tech department.
NEW BUSINESS
· Jerry mentioned that we took all suggestions into consideration for rules and tried to make fair judgment calls.
Rule discussions took place
· The preliminary proposals are listed at the end of the meeting minutes. THEY ARE NOT FINAL !!!! PLEASE DO NOT VIEW THEM AS SUCH. FINAL 2009 RULES WILL BE POSTED SHORTLY !!!!!!! Responses to the rule change proposals from the club body are such:
· PROCEDURES CHANGES: Lowell Bennett added we should consider adding a promoter’s choice instead of the paragraph about someone phoning in that they cannot make it by qualifying time. (2.1.13 listed below) Andy Monday suggested we consider the possible loopholes and didn’t like the idea. Jerry said we don’t HAVE to do it if the driver’s don’t want to. Lowell Bennett suggested having a “throw out” night for points. Advisory vote was taken on making a change or note. 20 votes to toss the idea, 5 votes to keep the idea but clean it up.
· LM CHANGES: Adding the option of having ABC Vinyl protectors was brought up (5.3.1) Tim Rothe had issue with this, as they can become an invisible spear and seriously injure someone. Advisory vote: For allowing them: 3, Against allowing them: 22
· LM CHANGES: (5.6.9) Terry Korth suggested changing 3.5 to 5 inches o.d. after the collector.
· Lowell Bennett had questions about what motor options we will be allowing to compete. Jerry brought up the L/S motor option. Jerry said IF it was allowed here, it would be the same weight s Slinger, but a 2 barrell carb. Tim Rothe suggested we stick with the motor options we have right now.
· John meidam brought up a concern about floating brake rotors, but it was already listed in last year’s rule book, so it will just need to be enforced better.
· Jim Duchow asked what the purpose of having a crate motor as a LM option. Jerry and Tom both collectively answered that it will stay in there as a motor option for both LM and LLM divisions to try to encourage folks to move up a class without making too many changes.
· LLM CHANGES: Rule change for 6.1.1…the proposal suggests reducing the Max tread width from 66 to 65, with a 25# penalty for anything over 65.06. Mike Springstroh challenged this, as most would have to make adjustments, so why wouldn’t we just leave it alone. Advisory vote to leave it as it is currently written from last year (2008) was 9 votes and 3 wanted to accept the new max tread width.
· LLM CHANGES: We began to discuss weights for different LLM motors, but it had to be tabled to an additional meeting after the general club meeting, as there was a second list of suggestions that the officer’s did not have yet.
· SS CHANGES: Rule 7.6.5-We suggested everyone be put on a 2 barrel carb. Which did not go over well. Mark Ritger also said there was a part number missing that should have been listed. The rest of the changes were tabled until after the general meteing.
· SIZZLIN’ 4 CHANGES: The only contested non rule change was not adding camber adjustment, as this is getting to be too much adjusting on the car and getting too close to a super stock, rather than an entry level division.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
· Mike Kelly suggested we consider letting the mandatory new seatbelts go longer than 2 years. Several members voiced their opinions. We will look into what our insurance company says about it, as well as the manufacturer’s recommendations. Jerry said we could probably go up to 3 years maximum, but he wasn’t comfortable going longer than that.
· Bud Collar explained the race-ceiver deal They make an ACE model that goes between the helmet and the radio and just quiets the spotter any time the race-ceiver person talks (cautions/moving people into right positions). They are only $100 and would speed the show up considerably.
50/50 winner was Brandon Conrad $46
Motion to adjourn was made by the Carpenter Race Team (Dan, Doug and Evan), seconded by Tim Rothe Meeting adjourned at 8:16 pm.
Next Meeting is on Monday, January 26th at 7pm at the Darboy Club
FULL RULE CHANGES WILL BE POSTED LATER THIS WEEK:
THESE WERE THE PREMILINARY CHANGES PROPOSED BEFORE The Monday, November 17th meeting !!!
Procedures Proposed changes PRIOR to 11/17/08:
2.1.3 Weigh In
Add verbiage “Crew Members may not jack car prior to scaling and tech inspection”
2.1.7 Race Start
Add verbiage “If there is a caution without 1 completed lap on the initial start of the race, all cars involved in the yellow are given original position back in lineup, provided all cars involved can continue.”
2.1.8 Race Length
Late Model car and lap counts:
Based on 26 or less cars qualified
14 cars qualify for feature by time
6 car dash – 6 laps
2 equal car heats – 8 laps
Based on 27-30 cars qualified
16 cars qualify for the feature by time
6 car dash + additional cars over 26 start behind fast qualifier. – Lap count will equal cars in the race
(Example: 28 cars qualified… Top 8 make the dash… 7th & 8th place qualifiers start behind the fast qualifier…Total of 8 laps.)
2 heats of 10 cars a piece – 8 laps
Based on 31 or more cars qualified
18 cars qualify for the feature by time
6 car dash – 6 laps
3 heats of equal car counts – 8 laps
Late Model semi feature changed from 12 laps to 15 laps
2.1.13 Car and Driver Changes
LM & LLM ONLY… This rule is only valid 1 time per season, per driver. If a driver is not able to make it to the track for their divisions specified qualifying timeframe, they must contact an FRRC Officer PRIOR to 12:00pm of the event date. Their average time will be used as their qualifying time and place them in the field accordingly. There will be no additions or deletions to the field count. The absent driver will start in all positions and gain all qualifying points based on the average time. Driver must be present and in competition for both the heat and feature events in order to receive any points that night. If driver does not make it to the nightly event, no points will be awarded to them for the entire event. That events points and lineups will be adjusted to reflect their absence and their qualifying time will be voided.
Late Model Proposed changes PRIOR to 11/17/08:
5.1 - Competing models as approved by FRRC
All 2008’s go to 2009’s
5.1.1 – Approved Competition Models
All ABC Bodies are approved
Wheel Base goes FROM 104.0 to 108.0 inches TO 103.0 +/- 2.0 inches
Max Tread Width goes FROM 65.0 inches TO 65 inch max or 65.06 – 66.00 Max with a 25lb penalty added to total weight.
Add Max Tread Width to be measured without driver in car. Car must comply with the 4” Ground clearance rule (No Shock Tie Down allowed during Tread Width inspections)
5.1.2 Other Approved Models
Add 3 race maximum to all non ABC approved models
5.2.1 Overall Car Weight
ASA Late Model Series Car verbiage will change to read FRRC Chevy Crate Motor Car (GM P/N 88958604 ONLY)
Remove Minimum Specification Car from Rules
5.2.3 Car Weights After Race
Denied Request to scale top 5 finishers in all heat races… rule will remain as heat race winner and top 5 from semi and feature.
Add verbiage “Crew Members may not jack car prior to scaling and tech inspection”
5.3.1 Car Bodies
FROM “Rub rails mounted on outside of the body are prohibited” TO “ONLY purchased ABC approved vinyl protectors are allowed, all homemade rub rails or vinyl protectors are prohibited”
5.5.2 Brake Components – Front and Rear
Changed retail cost FROM $450 TO $500
Denied Request to remove a max cost from rules
5.6.8 Ignition System & Battery – ALL Engines
Change verbiage FROM 1 MSD compatible ignition box TO 2
5.6.9 Exhaust System – ALL Engines
FROM:
“All cars must have a complete exhaust system. All exhaust systems must extend past the driver and exit under the car. Visiting teams will be allowed a maximum of 3 races with side exhaust, if exhaust runs out the side behind the driver, the exit pipe must be pointed down and no more than one foot off the ground. Every car must have a muffler. The maximum decibel limit is 104 db.”
TO:
-All cars must have a complete exhaust system that must be equipped with a muffler. All exhaust must exit the car behind the driver but not past the rear axle of the car. All exhaust exit pipes must be pointed down toward the ground. Max of 3.5 inches o.d. after the collector.
-Under car exhaust systems are allowed.
-Exhaust systems are allowed to exit the side of the car. Side exhaust systems must be equipped with a braced 10 x 10 inch steel plate located on the inside of the body panels. Exhaust exit pipes are to be welded in the center of the plate with the ends flush to the plate. A maximum of 2 holes are allowed in the side of the body panel.
-All decibel readings will be taken from a location in front of the inner pit “officer’s shack”. Exhaust systems that exit under the car may have a maximum decibel limit of 104 db. Exhaust systems that exit the side of the car may have a maximum decibel limit of 95 db.
Limited Late Model proposed changes PRIOR to 11/17/08:
6.1 - Competing models as approved by FRRC
All 2008’s go to 2009’s
6.1.1 – Approved Competition Models
All ABC Bodies are approved
Max Tread Width goes FROM 66.0 inches TO 65 inch max or 65.06 – 66.00 Max with a 25lb penalty added to total weight.
Add Max Tread Width to be measured without driver in car. Car must comply with the 4” Ground clearance rule (No Shock Tie Down allowed during Tread Width inspections)
6.2.1 Overall Car Weights
Chevy Crate #88958604 – 2725 lbs (Up 50)
FRRC Spec Engine Car – 2750 lbs (Up 50)
Un-ported Head Car – 2850 lbs (same)
Removed Ford and Chrysler/dodge crates from rulebook for 09
Denied request to make the LLM class a 1 car class by 2010 no phase out planned at this point.
6.3.1 Car Bodies
FROM “Rub rails mounted on outside of the body are prohibited” TO “ONLY purchased ABC approved vinyl protectors are allowed, all homemade rub rails or vinyl protectors are prohibited”
6.3.3 Rear Spoiler
Spoiler height raised to 6.5 inches with mandatory 70 degree angle
6.5 Suspension
No external bump stop systems of any type
Rubber bushing style shock limiters are allowed as long as they are captured on the shock shaft. All spring type limiters are prohibited.
Shock is to have a solid shaft. Hollow shaft shocks are prohibited.
6.6.4 FRRC Sealed Crate Engine
Remove all Ford and Chrysler crates from rules for 09
6.6.46 Intake manifold
Add one inch carb spacer allowed (Crate rules)
6.6.7 Carburetor
Remove one inch carb spacer allowed (Un-Ported rules)
6.7.1 Clutch, Bell Housing, Transmission & Driveshaft
Add drop cluster transmissions to list of prohibited.
Add all transmissions must work in reverse
Add driveshaft must aluminum or steel construction. All other materials including carbon fiber are prohibited.
6.6.10 Exhaust System – ALL Engines
FROM:
“All cars must have a complete exhaust system. All exhaust systems must extend past the driver and exit under the car. Visiting teams will be allowed a maximum of 3 races with side exhaust, if exhaust runs out the side behind the driver, the exit pipe must be pointed down and no more than one foot off the ground. Every car must have a muffler. The maximum decibel limit is 104 db.”
TO: (same as LM)
-All cars must have a complete exhaust system that must be equipped with a muffler. All exhaust must exit the car behind the driver but not past the rear axle of the car. All exhaust exit pipes must be pointed down toward the ground. Max of 3.5 inches o.d. after the collector.
-Under car exhaust systems are allowed.
-Exhaust systems are allowed to exit the side of the car. Side exhaust systems must be equipped with a braced 10 x 10 inch steel plate located on the inside of the body panels. Exhaust exit pipes are to be welded in the center of the plate with the ends flush to the plate. A maximum of 2 holes are allowed in the side of the body panel.
-All decibel readings will be taken from a location in front of the inner pit “officer’s shack”. Exhaust systems that exit under the car may have a maximum decibel limit of 104 db. Exhaust systems that exit the side of the car may have a maximum decibel limit of 95 db.
Denied LLM Requests PRIOR to 11/17/08:
Everyone in a race is allowed to claim anybodies claimable parts in a race they are competing in, not just the people finishing in the top 3 spots.
Brakes to be changed to anyone who completed all laps can claim or be claimed in the same race (excluding the last 2 nights)
Claim on brakes to remain $150 but no more than 4 piston calipers
Any MSD ignition box setup for rev chip limiter
Would like to get tire scanner to scan tires
Would like to get what gets inspected out of a box the night of racing so that the word does not get out.
LLM & LM board of directors can have say on inspections and can watch
Plan to phase out motors in LLM division and taper down to a 1 motor division by 2010
Super Stocks Proposed changes PRIOR to 11/17/08::
· 7.5.2 Brake Components
o Remove brake proportioning valve must be mounted in engine compartment…. Add proportioning valve may be accessible to driver inside the car. Only 1 adjuster allowed.
· 7.6.5 Carburetor
o Delete all verbiage regarding the vortec headed motor and all verbiage regarding the GM 2bbl or 4bbl Quadra jet. Those are now illegal.
o New rule will state that all Super Stock engines OTHER than the sealed crate are required to have the 4412s or 0-4412c 2bbl carb.
o Sealed crate engines are still allowed the 650cfm 4bbl Holly 4150HP
· 7.6.8 Exhaust System
o Delete sentence stating merge collectors or any reduction or expansion pipes of any kind are prohibited.
o Add a sentence stating a taper measuring 6 inches in length is allowed to make the transition from the 3 inch collector pipe to the 2.5 inch exhaust pipe.
o Delete the last paragraph regarding the headers being R&D…
· 7.8.3 Fuel
o Delete all verbiage about fuel containing methanol or ethanol is prohibited.
o The new rule will read “The fuel must be automotive gasoline only. The use of nitrous oxide is prohibited.
· 7.9.2 Seat
o All seat mounting hardware must be Grade 5 or better
· 7.9.4 Helmet
o Remove the statement that head and neck restraint systems may become mandatory in 2009.
o Rule will remain the same requiring a neck collar at the minimum.
Denied Super Stock Request PRIOR to 11/17/08 :
· Add Weight per engine type
· Fiberglass body parts/hoods
· Sway Bar – stock location & mounts
· Crate engine carb spacer & clutch weight deduction
· Intake open?
· Air cleaner – no filter tops; and no device to direct air to carb or air cleaner
· No weight rule for crankshaft
Sizzlin 4’s Proposed changes PRIOR to 11/17/08:
9.1 Competing Models as approved by FRRC
Allow for newer model cars, change from 2000 to 2004.
Allow DOHC cars to compete with a 2 week maximum.
9.4.1 Roll Cage
Add halo support bar to cage as mandatory either being diagonal or vertical.
9.7.3.2 Tires
Delete the statement "equal size" tires.
Change from 65 series to 60 series or larger allowed
9.9.10 One Way Receivers
One Way receivers are mandatory. Receivers will ONLY be allowed to receive track personal direction. Team spotters are prohibited. Receivers are required to be programmed to track mandated frequency only.
Receiver Elite 1600 receivers only!
9.10 Claims
Add to the claim rule so that a claim can only be made up to 5 minutes after their race has been completed and claim money must be presented to the tech inspector at the tech shack within that time.
Add claimers and claimees and their equipment are not allowed to leave the tech area after the completion of the race
Add that only current club members are allowed to claim cars that are also current club members.
Denied Sizzlin 4 Request:
Allow for a tubular bumper to help reinforce the front of the car if needed.
Add 1/2" slot may be allowed to change camber. This would include it being allowed for all four corners of the car if driver so wanted.
Figure 8’s Proposed changes PRIOR to 11/17/08::
· All 2008’s go to 2009’s… no other rule changes
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, October 27, 2008 TIME:
7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:08pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Tom Schweitzer.
Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by John Meidam, seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• Jerry explained that we will be voting early on and then announce our new
2009 elected
officials at the end of the meeting.
• Jerry read off the nominations for VP being Marty Nussbaum, Mike
Springstroh and Tom Gee, Jr.. We accepted additional write ins, but there
were none.
• Jerry read off the nominations for Treasurer, which there were none. He
asked for Write ins and Marty Nussbaum changed his mind on the nomination
for Vice President and decided to be a write in candidate for Treasurer. No
other write in candidates were accepted.
• VOTING TOOK PLACE
• Banquet Summary; Read off the list of trophies that have not been picked
up yet: Mark Schroeder, Troy Nelson, Larry Raygo, Jeff Beschta. Several
sponsor plaques are still not picked up yet.
• Rules committee meetings: Due to their being so many different divisions
and much of the material not being relevant to the group as a whole, we will
not discuss possible divisional rule changes with the whole group. The LLM’s
and SS divisions have met previously and will present their recommendations
after the meeting to the officers. The topics will be discussed with the
2009 set of officers and the current 2008 tech inspectors
• Tom talked about insurance: Our company doesn’t mandate what type of
safety equipment is required. That is totally our call to keep drivers safe.
Tom also mentioned that our rates from last year will be the same or go
down, which is great news.
NEW BUSINESS
• A possible collaboration with WIR was discussed. Many folks shared some
great ideas on what could occur if this did occur, but nothing has been
finalized, as we are at the initial stages of discussion and haven’t had a
serious sit down discussion with Roger yet. Some suggestions were to run R,
W and B on Thursdays, others said Sundays. Some thought it could run in
conjunction with the triple crown series. Some thought we could get more
cars on Thursdays. Some thought Sundays would not get any more cars and we
could lose some regulars. Lots of folks had opinions, but nothing was
finalized. The main thing to consider above everything else as Kay Lynne
Duchow brought up is how financially could/would the FRRC benefit. Jerry
agreed and said that will be the number one priority when having these
discussions.
• Nick Boldt asked about the Gandrud SS series. Jerry mentioned that we hope
to still be working with Chris Slack from Gandrud, but it won’t be with 141,
as last year’s series never really took off. Mike Meyerhoffer suggested we
consider a traveling series for the Figure Eights between Slinger and FRRC
as the fans love this division and it could be easy to pull off. Mark Ritger
said something similar was done in the past and it worked out excellent.
• John Meidam suggested we consider extending our season a bit, as some of
our sponsors ended up in tents. Jerry mentioned that this was due to
rainouts and the goal would be to not triple book on any weeks next year.
• Mark Ritger said fans shared with him that they enjoyed Thursday Night
shows much better than Red, White and Blue shows.
• Jerry thanked Larry MacArthur and Tom Gee, Jr. for their help this past
year. Larry will be volunteering to help with sponsors for 2009 and other
treasurer duties.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• Dave Valentyne asked about race-ceivers/scanners for the ½ mile. Other
series do this, but their spotters have the scanner, so it is similar to
what we do right now. Evan Carpenter mentioned that possibly having someone
help Dave could be considered. Jerry didn’t feel that it was a big problem,
as we typically had spotters up there from every team, except an occasional
traveler or a crew that had 2 cars and three people.
• Dave Stammer asked if any pay would be going up if tire costs went up.
Jerry said only if our hill count goes up. Jerry mentioned that we are
entertaining ideas for a change at the top gate age-wise to consider 12 and
under free and 13 and up would all be considered adults and pay $9 each. We
are still looking into other scenarios as well.
• John Meidam suggested we up the semi in the LM division to 15 laps,
instead of 12 laps. Jesse Oudenhoven suggested we only do this for the LM’s
and keep the LLM’s 12 laps, as they are only on one new tire and don’t need
the extra three laps.
• Votes for Treasurer’s nominated or write ins were announced: Marty
Nussbaum 29; Other votes were also cast but no other write ins were
accepted, so they were discarded. (Kaye Lynn Duchow; Cheryl Schneider and
Todd Verhagen) New Treasurer for 2009/2010 is Marty Nussbaum
• Votes for Vice President’s nominated (no write ins) were read off: Tom
Gee, Jr 40; Mike Springstroh 25
2009/2010 Vice President is Tom Gee, Jr.
• Jerry wrapped up the meeting and said we would like to have rules close to
finalized by the November meeting and the schedule finalized by February
1st. But, we can talk about the length of the schedule long before February.
John Meidam and Andy Monday volunteered to help with any sort of scheduling
committee if one is formed.
50/50 winner was Jim Hoerning $60
Motion to adjourn was made by Mark Ritger, seconded by Carpenter Race Team
(Dan, Doug and Evan) Meeting adjourned at 8:06 pm.
Next Meeting is in 3 weeks on Monday, November 17th at 7pm at the Darboy
Club
GENERAL
MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, September 22, 2008
TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:27pm. The delay
was due to unforeseen circumstances….The doors were locked !!!
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Ed Howard, seconded by John Meidam. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Springstroh, seconded by Dave Moderson. Motion
carried.
OLD BUSINESS
• Jerry commented on how well he thought the season went overall.
• Jerry gave the banquet update-we need sponsors for beer and trophies; each
sponsor gets 2 free banquet tickets
• The points fund appears to be similar to what it was last year, even
though we paid out close to $1,200 more per night more than last year. We do
still have some receivables out there, so we don’t have a final number yet.
• Season passes-you will receive one free banquet ticket to make up for the
fact that we had 4 rainouts.
• Tom read off names of the lifetime members who we don’t have current
contact info. on.
• We still need volunteers for selling 50/50 tickets at the banquet, for
manning the raffle/door prizes (unless we do a silent auction) and for
banquet set-up. Please see Tom after the meeting to sign up. If you have any
door prizes to donate contact any of the officers.
• Additional nominations for VP---Currently Tom Gee, Jr, Mike Springstroh
and Marty Nussbaum are nominated.
• Additional nominations for Treasurer—none and Larry Mac Arthur has
re-canted his nomination. Currently we have no nominations for Treasurer.
• Write-in candidates will be accepted at the October meeting and will give
speeches.
NEW BUSINESS
• Rules committees—the 4 officers for the 2009 race season would like to
hear ideas after the October general meeting, but not before then as we are
concentrating on the 2008 season and the awards banquet right now. 2
officers for the 2009 season aren’t even elected, so decisions on any matter
don’t hold any weight right now.
• Mike Kelly did have a LLM rules meeting and has some recommendations
already and so do the super stocks. John Meidam volunteered to do a Lm rules
meeting or connect with LM drivers.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
• Mark Ritger asked if we will want the Hans device to be mandatory for the
SS division. We will check with our insurance company before the October
meeting and decide after elections.
• Mark Ritger suggested we contact Brad Dahmer for possible trophy/beer
sponsorships.
• Ed Howard asked if we could price out a divisional trophy cost and ask
folks to sponsor a division of trophies and he thought e might get a better
response.
• We need a banquet tickets to be bought by October 5th and a final head
count by October 8th
• Tom Gee called all teams present to come up front and vote for like
divisions for best appearing car awards, as we failed to do this the last
Thursday night of the season.
No 50/50 was done, due to the delay
Motion to adjourn was made by Jeff Wholrabe, seconded by Jesse Oudenhoven
Meeting adjourned at 7:54 pm.
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, April 28, 2008 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:12pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Marty Nussbaum, seconded by Brandon Conrad. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Mike Clancy, seconded by Hank Calmes. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· Memberships are on sale again tonight; This is the last meeting to buy memberships. Memberships will also be sold after tonight up until the practice day on May 10th, but the number registration will increase. After May 10th, memberships will no longer be sold !!!
· Nightly sponsors—We have one open night on May 29th; If anyone has any leads, please talk to an officer after the meeting
· Minor release forms and pit waiver forms and cards are available tonight
· 2008 race procedure change; super stocks will qualify in the same spot as last year, so the only change will be an earlier drivers meeting, happening around 4:40pm in the inner pits so the flagman can attend; The outer pits one will be happening the same time as usual
· 141/FRRC Super Stock race series dates are June 5th, July 10th and August 7th, as requested by the drivers.
· Big Wheel races are on June 12th and August 14th; Coin Drop is on July 10th; Kids Ride-along is on July 17th. All of these events start at 6:45pm and we are hoping can be wrapped up BY 7pm, so we can start on time…
· Rule books are available; 1 per team.
NEW BUSINESS
· Nightly pay increases; due to getting more money from Roger this year, we put an extra $1,000 per night into the divisional pay, involving all the divisions.
· Darboy Corner Store wants to do a car show in May; More details will be announced at a later date.
· Pat Barrett was in attendance to field questions at the end of the meeting.
· Chris Shields asked about procedures and points for the 141/FRRC series. Jerry said this would all be worked out with Mike Bunnell.
· Mark Ritger said he could not get his car ready for the Chilton car show, but George Schwalbach should be commended for bringing his car there to promote the club.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
· Dan Harrell asked about points for heat races and asked if the officers had looked into that yet. Jerry read off the proposal from officers for upping the points for all heats except the dash to even things out a bit. Basically one point per heat less for winning: dash 16 points to win, fast heat 15 to win, slow heat 14 to win. This is in an attempt to keep more cars in the point chase. Andy Monday feels if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. Jim Duchow suggested 2 point per race, but officers looked it up and it currently IS that way now. Mark Diercks suggested voting on the matter. Raise of hands vote—1 per team enforced for the LLM and LM classes combined: 8 teams wanted to keep it the same and 10 wanted to try the new proposed way. We will try the new format and review it at the end of the season.
· Chris Shields asked if he couldn’t make the practice day, could he still get inspected before the first night. Jerry requested that he either have his car there, even if he can’t be there or just have it inspected that first night. We will not be asking tech inspectors to do work on days they are not working.
· Pat Barret came up next and gave a short speech on his plans for the 2008 season flagging for the club and opened the topic up for questions from the members
QUESTIONS FOR PAT BARRET
Q-----Dan Harrell said he feels that there were a few questionable starts in semi-features last year. He said when he approached Pat last year; he was told it was just a semi-feature. Dan feels that all semi-features and features should be treated the same.
A---Pat said he did not remember that conversation and if that is what he said, he was wrong. He did elaborate and say there are only so many tries we can give a race, before the fans get unsettled.
Q----Hank Calmes asked who has the final say in calls, when spotters are reporting what they see, as well as officers on the radio.
A---Pat said that to his knowledge, he will have the final say. Clint added that officers will speak up if Pat and track spotters didn’t see something that an officer saw, but ultimately we HIRED Pat to have the final say on the matter.
Q---Tom Hockers asked if cone prep for pick-a-lane could be done quicker, as it slows the show down considerably.
A---Pat suggested that we move the cone closer to turn 4, so they can get the one to go after picking a lane and not have to go around the track one more time.
Q---Dan Vixmer asked if cars picked a lane, and then there was a re-start right away, do they go back to the spots they just picked or re-pick?
A—same spots, no re-pick
Q---Please define 2 caution rule
A—Pat said the way he understands it to be…One freebie caution…the second one and the race is over. This does NOT count immediate re-starts.
Q---Jeff Zwiers asked that Pat make sure drivers have adequate warning before being black flagged
A---Pat agreed, unless it is blatant disrespect, earning an immediate black flag.
Q---Jerry Quella asked about one-way radios
A---Pat doesn’t have much experience with these, but the tower will communicate to them and not the flagman.
Comment-Tom Rosera said that the race-ceivers are used on many dirt tracks and they tend to speed the show up, as they improve the communication
Q—Charlie Haven asked if there is a universal response to show that they hear us, so they don’t get black flagged, even if they have it on?
A—We will work this out together in the division as the season starts.
Pat was thanked for his attendance at the meeting.
MORE TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
Denny Crass asked for clarification on team memberships in the super stock class and the procedure was explained to him.
Jerry Quella commented that the race-ceivers that were ordered from him are in and can be picked up.
Dennis Stebane asked about different procedures about keeping cars from overheating or wasting gas. Jerry said we will cut down warm up laps to speed the program up and take the season as it comes, always trying to be mindful of what time it is on the clock.
Hank Calmes suggested that the pace car leave off the back stretch
Dan Carpenter asked if we would lock up Goodyear tires from travelers in the shed. Jerry said probably not, but instead have the tech inspectors check the tires closely for soaking and depth.
Todd Verhagen asked why you couldn’t sub someone to qualify the car for you if you have something that cannot be missed, like Graduation. Jerry said we will discuss it among officers and let the body know what we think we can do about it, if anything.
Larry Van Groll said May 6th is the first Tuesday Night practice at W.I.R. from 3:30pm—dark
Tom Gee, Jr. mentioned that the scales are getting calibrated by Valley Scale right now.
Jerry reminded everyone to pick up driver information cards and turn them in asap, so the tower has accurate information.
50/50 winner was Al Goueleke $47
Motion to adjourn was made by Mike Clancy, seconded by Tom Hockers
Meeting adjourned at 8:04 pm.
DATE: Monday, March 24, 2008 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:08pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Andy Monday. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Dave Moderson. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· Memberships are on sale again tonight; we will allow folks to buy them up until practice day
yet this year, but this could change for next year.
· Contract meeting with Roger occurred; Roger gave us ½ of what we were asking for. He was very reasonable and we are planning on putting the extra money towards the nightly payout.
· We are still in need of 2 nightly flyer sponsors. See Clint or Larry if you are interested. They are $200 for a full season.
· Nightly sponsors—We have one open night on May 29th; If anyone has any leads, please see Larry.
NEW BUSINESS
· 2008 FFRC/WIR schedules and posters are here, please take some and distribute them in the area.
· 2008 race procedures—we are recommending bumping up the SS qualifying to earlier in the night. We would like to discuss it further with this division after the meeting to find a time that would work out best. We also want to discuss which nights this division would like to run their 3 race 141/FRRC races, so we can let Gandrud know.
· Nightly payout increases-we hope to have some final numbers after the Audit committee looks over our proposals.
· Pat Barrett will be in attendance to answer any questions folks may have at next month’s meeting.
· Car Shows—we are invited to attend the Chilton car show at Calumet County Fairgrounds on April 27th. Darboy Corner Store and DJ’s Speedzone would also like to do car shows in early May.
· Beway will return as our parts and fuel supplier. They will again do their “Dash for Gas” where any LLM or LM feature winner who buys a minimum amount of TORCO fuel from Wayne and carries a TORCO and BEWAY sticker on their car will get a certificate for free gas. More details on exact amounts coming soon.
· Minor release forms and pit insurance waivers are required again in 2008; forms are available up front.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
· Andy Monday thought that doing a drivers meeting early would be very helpful, so everything isn’t so rushed before the national anthem. He also suggested opening the pit gate at 3:30pm. Jerry said we will do our best to get it open as early as physically possible. We also would like to bump up the drivers meeting to somewhere in the ball park of 4:40pm
· George Schwalbach said there was a lot of congestion last year with getting trailers in the pits. He thought it ran smoother in years past when the gate by the pit stop was open for SS and sport truck trailers. Jerry said we can talk to Roger about this.
· Tom Hockers said the announcer takes forever to interview people and this is part of the delay to not starting at 7pm. Jerry said sometimes the drivers meeting still takes folks away from the front stretch where they are supposed to be for the anthem, kids ridealong, etc.
· Randy Sankowsky suggested sizzling 4 practice, then SS practice, then sport trucks, then SS qualify, then sport truck qualify to give more time, or something similar to that. Jerry said we would look into it and it seemed to be a good idea.
· Dennis Stebane suggested having everyone at ½ speed for two laps behind the pace car to warm up tires, rather than doing hot laps and having the cars scattered.
· Andy Monday said if the SS qualifying does move up, let the fast qualifier of the SLM division skip the weigh in until after the anthem, as they are trapped in the bottle neck by the scale. It was mentioned that last year this changed and we weighed BEFORE qualifying, so that shouldn’t be an issue.
· Mark Ritger took issue with having the SS qualify 1 and ½ hours earlier than last year. He said that is too much of a switch in time and many folks wont be able to get there that early. Jerry said every other division needs to be there by that time, but we can work with the division and maybe skate it back a bit, but it will still more than likely be before LLM and LM qualifying.
· Dennis Stebane said under cautions we should have the cars shut off to save gas instead of taking several laps and wasting gas. Jerry said this would work on most nights, unless it is 90 degrees
· Mark Ritger asked if you have to have race-ceivers in order to compete? Just in case we get travelers who don’t have them. Jerry said that Matt Rowe will have a few of them to rent on race nights, but not an abundance of them. Ron Magdanz said folks can still order them from him at a good rate. Mike Bunnell said that at 141 they do checks to make sure each driver can hear the message being sent and if they do not respond, they are black flagged from the event. So, they will be required. Clint said Bud Collar at Race-com will also be selling them if you order from him. Tom said he spoke with Matt Rowe and the elite 1600 is the model of choice, as you can keep it on one channel. It is different than a scanner. Scanners will not be accepted as a substitute for the race-ceiver
· Mike Kelly brought up the possibility of allowing Goodyear tires in the LLM division. Jerry said the officers discussed it recently and feel allowing a 3 race maximum, like the side exhaust seems reasonable, so we are not chasing travelers away. We will do an amendment to allow this soon.
· Mike Kelly suggested forming a rules committee for the 2009 season to go through the rules and come up with rules suggestions, getting together with drivers in the division to discuss ideas, etc and then coming up with recommendations to present to the officers by the October meeting. Basically, the officers would only get involved after the recommendations are made, not right from day one of the discussions. The officers all were in favor of this and would love to see every division take charge of this task. Mike Kelly suggested the rep from the B-O-D for each division be the rep. responsible for organizing this. Jerry said this was a good idea and he thought that the track champion should also be involved in this committee. He also said he would think having tech inspectors involved would be important, as well.
· Hank Calmes said he feels the club definitely needs a rules committee and that rule change suggestions should be brought up at meetings, then passed along to this rules committee (including tech inspectors) to research it before any decisions are made.
· Andy asked if the referee was fixed yet; Jerry said we will look into it and make sure it is working on practice day.
· Andy asked if the Kyle Busch deal was happening again this year? And if it is we need to look at our motor rules prior to then. Jerry said we will look into this if indeed he is planning on coming. Right now, we have heard nothing concrete.
· Todd Verhagen asked if we would be templating the LLM cars this year? We will look into doing this, but are not 100% sure at this time.
· Jerry commented again that Roger was very willing to work with FRRC this year on our contract. Jerry asked that members thank Roger the next time they see him.
· Mike Springstroh asked about rub rails for cars that race the Big Eight series, as most have them. Jerry said as of right now, NO. We have our own rules for this division.
50/50 winner was Terry Miller $74
Motion to adjourn was made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Tom Hockers
Meeting adjourned at 7:50 pm.
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, February 25, 2008 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:04pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dennis Baldry, seconded by Bill Fischer. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report and also read off prices for memberships and pit passes.
Motion to accept made by Jeff Zwiers, seconded by Dennis Stebane. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· 2008 Rules—Rule books are in; each team can get one when their driver/car owner pays for their membership; 1 per team only. They are also available on the internet webpage for free at: www.frrcracing.com
· Jerry read off the 2008 Board of Directors:
Wir- Dave Valentyne
former officer-Jim Duchow
LM-Andy Monday
LLM-Dennis Stebane
SS-Nick Boldt
Sizzling 4—Randy Sankowsky
Sport t-Robb Vandermoss
Figure eight---Ken Van Wychen
· Jerry re-iterated that memberships are on sale again tonight; same rate as 2007.
· Jerry asked that the advertising committee-please see come up after the meeting.
· Contract meeting with Roger coming within the next two weeks
· Employee/contractor meeting occurred; Updates---Pat Barrett will be the flagman and Matt Panure will be the announcer. Most other positions will be the same as 2007.
NEW BUSINESS
· Jerry read off a report about his disappointment in the club, in general and how it should function properly. These thoughts were shared by the other officers, as well. The major points being: The definition of a club is “a group of individuals uniting together for a common cause” Far too many members get involved only when they feel it benefits them personally, with very few members concerned about the welfare and the continuing success of the FRRC. Threatening to sue officers and calling them names and complaining is not of any benefit to any club. A membership card should not be viewed as your license to bitch. The officers have been trying to keep things running smoothly and have been concentrating on what is good for the club as a whole and trying to be fair to all members and divisions. The club is only as good as it’s members. Try being more reasonable in your commentary and more productive as members.
· Update on nightly flyers—we still have 2 openings for $200 sponsors
· Nightly sponsors---still need the first and second week covered. If you have a lead, please see Larry after the meeting. The amount goes down to $2,000 per night for these sponsors.
· 2008 Final Schedule with sponsors to be announced soon. We are still trying to get the first two weeks covered.
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
· Mike Kelly asked why it says MSD 6-AL must be run by crate motors, as most don’t have them in. Jerry said the tech crew will take a look at that. This was already in the rules all the way back in 2006, so we were wondering why it wasn’t complied with for the last 2 years…
· Mike Kelly questioned the reasoning behind the side exhaust rule. Jerry explained it will be for 3 nights maximum, so travelers on triple crown nights don’t have to make a bunch of changes on their car to shake them down when prepping for the Red, White and Blue races. Mike asked if the noise was the reasoning behind this rule and what the thought was on changing the decibel level, rather than not allowing side exhaust.
· Jim Duchow gave feedback on the history of the rule; The 104 db was a line in the sand that was developed back when cars were felt to be too loud and folks were being fined for cars being too loud.
· Mike Kelly questioned what rocker arms are being allowed on Ford crate motors? Jerry said right now we are considering running them with 1.6 rockers, as that is how they come from the factory and adding weight to them. A few members gave their feedback and the issue was tabled until after the general meeting, so the LLM drivers could discuss it further.
· Mark Ritger mentioned that there will be a car show at the Chilton fairgrounds on April 27th and that FRRC cars can attend. Contact Mark for more details.
50/50 winner was Ron Magdanz $55
Motion to adjourn was made by Marty Nussbaum, seconded by Bill Fischer
Meeting adjourned at 7:33 pm.
GENERAL MEETING NOTES
DATE: Monday, January 28, 2008 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:08pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Dennis Stebane. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report.
Motion to accept made…all in favor---several hands raised. Opposed- no hands raised. Motion carried
OLD BUSINESS
· Bylaw changes were read off by Jerry Schneider. Motion made to accept them made by Larry Sebeck. A raise of hands for all opposed…no hands were raised. Motion carried.
· Jerry mentioned that rules updates will be made similar to what Clint read off from last month’s meeting minutes. The Super Stock Division rules changes will be discussed separately after the general meeting in a group. Final rules will be posted on the website shortly, and rulebooks should be available at the next meeting.
· We took volunteers for the B-O-D for sizzlin’ 4—Randy Sankowsky and for Figure Eight—Ken Van Wychen. Jim Duchow will be the former officer, so all positions are filled. Now that this year’s board if formed, the officers will back out and let them develop guidelines and such.
NEW BUSINESS
· Jerry read off new business, which consisted of the following:
· Meeting scheduled with Roger (W.I.R.) for early next month for our contract signing
· Memberships start tonight-same rate as 2007
· Advertising committee—interested parties should come up to the head table after the meeting
· Update on nightly programs—we still have 2 openings for $200 sponsors
· Nightly sponsors are all set for 2008; official schedule will be released soon, after we designate 50/50 nights, as we want them on this years schedules
· Employee meeting will be on February 9th. at 1pm The meeting will be at the Pit Stop again, like in 2007. We are only calling the people we are interested in employing for 2008.
· Bud Triple Crown update will be pretty much the same as 2007.
· We need top gate workers for 2008. The pay is $25 a piece and you have to work 2-3 hours.
· Teams can submit pictures for the website, which is being done by Jason Shultz this year. Sandy is doing the weekly race reports. The new website is www.frrcracing.com
TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
50/50 winner was Todd Verhagen $85
Motion to adjourn was made by Ed Howard, seconded by Dave Moderson.
Meeting adjourned at 7:43 pm.
DATE: Monday, November 26, 2007 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jerald Schneider called the meeting to order @ 7:06pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Greg Hauser, seconded by Dave Moderson. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report.
Motion to accept made by Bill Fischer, seconded by Jeff Zwiers. Motion Carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· LM rule changes were discussed and are final; ABC body rule will be required, Bert and Brin Transmissions will be allowed, any and all crate motors that show up will weigh 2600 minimum and can have a 60/40 split. The top 3 ACE motors may be sent in to Brodix at the end of the year.
· LLM rule changes will be finalized after the meeting, but we are recommending that the unported motor stays an option, but must weight 50# more than last year and run the Edelbrock 2975 small intake. Crate motors can also add a small harmonic balancer, 1.6 rockers and carb spacer plates. We are recommending adding 50# for one or all of these options, but it will be tabled for the meeting afterwards
· SS rule changes will be discussed in a separate meeting afterwards and are tabled
· Sizzlin 4 rules—we will not be allowing adjustments to camber or stagger. These cars must remain stock. A master switch in the middle for safety will be required.
· Figure Eight division-no changes for 2008
· Inspectors for 2008 will not be decided on until we receive applications from everyone at the January meeting. Offers will be made in January and February for all hired help.
· Recommendations from officers for pick a lane were to only do this for semi-features and not heat races, keep double file restarts with the leader all alone
NEW BUSINESS
· Officers recommendations for saving time were: time limits enforced for all heat races, plus a 2 caution rule for every heat race, only interview the feature and semi feature race winners, Super stocks to qualify after their hot laps and possibly an earlier drivers meeting, so all shows start BY 7pm.
· Tom Rothe suggested time limits on all races.
· Jerry Quella said at Oshkosh the race winner waits in the infield until the next race is over or a caution and there is no delay. Jerry S. said that you cannot hear anything at all on the ¼ mile when there are cars on the ½ mile, so this wouldn’t make a big difference.
· Todd Baumann asked if there could be adjustments made after hot laps if the SS qualify right away. Jerry S. said we could adjust it, if needed
· Greg Hauser asked if the SS cars could be scaled before they qualify to save the chaos by the scale afterwards.
· Jeff Zwiers suggested an earlier start time to the evening, as fans don’t get there until later anyway, which shows they come to watch the features.
· Jim Vandenberg suggested adding feature laps and getting rid of heat races. Jerry S. said that a lot of drivers want to run more than one time a night.
· Tom Rosera suggested enforcing the time limits and the caution limit, as well.
· Pat Braun said the problems that cause the delays are the crazy driving, which needs more black flagging and the lengthy safety crew clean ups. Jerry S said we will be stricter with black flags this year.
· Dan Harrell thinks we should have up to 28 cars in the feature with a drop off in pay after so many cars. Jerry S. said last year we increased pay for the semi-features and the car count went up from previous years. He said with too many cars in the feature that don’t belong there, they can get in the way of the drivers that do belong there.
· Tom Hockers said he thinks you learn more from racing in the semi-features than getting lapped. Jerry S. agreed.
· Dave Moderson thinks drivers still take way too long to get in correct spots under caution. Jerry S said it will be addressed and enforced.
· Cal Harrell suggested taking more cars from qualifying than 14 is a better way to do things, otherwise top drivers fall behind in the tire program putting more laps on their tires. Andy Monday thought that the way it was done last year was a lot more exciting for the fans and he heard a lot of good feedback from fans about watching top drivers have to transfer in from the semi-feature. Jeff Zwiers said as long as the cars stay starting straight up in the semi, the better cars still end up transferring anyway.
· Andy Monday suggested staggering the ¼ mile and ½ mile races so the next race is always on the other track, so it could be adjusted for a lengthy clean up right away. Jerry S. said he thinks the next race should be en cue anyway next year and ready to roll.
· Hank Calmes agreed with the officer’s suggestion of having interviews just for semi-feature and feature winners.
· Jim Duchow felt that just by making 3 changes, we could shave off a ½ hour every night from our shows: 1. staggering races (getting the next race lined up and ready) 2. scrap heat race winner interviews 3. time limit and caution limit
· Jerry S. also mentioned again having an earlier drivers meeting could allow us to get started promptly at 7pm
· Mark Ritger suggested enforcing time limits more strictly, including features. Jerry S isn’t high on time limits on any feature races.
· Dan Harrell agrees about getting rid of all the heat race winner interviews, but thinks we should still take victory lane photos. Jeff Zwiers said we have a banner for this, but people have to get it out and in place early on. Al Goueleke suggested possibly taping interviews and playing them later. Jerry S. said that would be another task for someone to commit to doing.
· Tom Rosera suggested group qualifying sessions, due to transponders to save time. Jerry S said we have toyed with this idea, but prefer the way it is done now.
· Tim Rothe said preliminary events aren’t what make the show run late, it is what happens after 7pm
· Monty Tetzlaff said that time limits on heat races will get people moving quicker.
· Marty Nussbaum suggested unleashing the figure eights at 9:45pm every night, no matter what else is going on.
· Terry Korth suggested we make a motion or move on to another topic
· Jerry S. brought up the leader alone on double file restarts. Andy Monday thinks the leader should start by himself in the front row. Jerry brought the topic up for a vote to do the pick a lane the same way we did it this year, which received 26 votes and the leader all alone received 1 vote.
· Snell requirement will be upgraded to meet snell requirements
· Mike Kelly brought up the possibility of enforcing decibel requirements; Jerry S. said this issue will be tabled.
· Tom Schweitzer asked about whether the 4 cylinders would be in the points fund distribution for 2008. Jerry S said instead of doing this, this division may have a higher nightly pay out instead. Tim Richter thought that by not allowing rule changes, it would be putting frrc sizzlin’4s on an island.
· Jerry Quella suggested increasing the top gate to $10 for fireworks night and buy some extra fireworks. Jerry S. said he hates to change the price when people that show up are expecting to pay $9. Jerry did say that the FRRC could pursue getting a fireworks sponsor, though so we could shoot more off. Bill Fischer asked how much the fireworks cost the club. Jerry S answered $1,500 from FRRC and $1,500 from W.I.R. Mark Ritger said that Slinger gets a sponsor and still charges the fans a $1 more. Jeff Z. said we are getting over $5,000 worth of fireworks for $3,000 and only paying for ½ of that cost, so we are getting a big bargain. Mike Springstroh suggested getting more sponsorship money for that night. Larry MacArthur said we have to take care of our long time sponsors, so it is hard to suddenly ask for more $$. Jerry S said we ask for the same amount from sponsors and don’t do separate sponsor packages.
· Cal Harrell suggested that all heats get the same amount of points
· Todd Baumann thought that the best average time isn’t fair for rainouts. Jerry S. said that is just the way it has always been done and saw no reason to change it.
· Jerry S. walked through suggested bylaw changes. Dan Harrell suggested that we also omit in Article 4 section 3 “excitement and refreshments” for how monies can be spent. Jerry S. said suggested bylaw changes will be posted on the internet for everyone to see. They will be voted on at the next meeting.
· Hank Calmes asked what the penalty would be for not adhering to the black flag. Jerry S said it will be clearly explained at future meetings.
· Jim Vandenberg asked if any changes would be made to the tire rule. Jerry S. said we will keep it the same. Black and round.
· Printing of rule books will more than likely be done by the February meeting.
· Andy Monday asked what the R, W and B dates are for 2007. Larry MacArthur said they are June 14th, July 19th and August 16th. Dave Valentyne also added that there will be an ASA Midwest race on the first Tuesday in August.
50/50 winner was Andy Monday $64
Motion to adjourn was made by Gary Bock, seconded by Dave Valentyne.
Meeting adjourned at 8:10 pm.
DATE: Monday, October 22, 2007 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Chris Shields called the meeting to order @ 7:00pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion made to accept by Marty Nussbaum, seconded by Monty Tetzlaff. Motion Carried
Cheryl Schneider (Book keeper) read the Treasurer’s report for Treasurer Larry MacArthur, who was unable to attend the meeting.
Motion to accept made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Andy Monday. Motion Carried.
OLD BUSINESS
Chris announced that we were taking write-ins from the general body for the club President position.
Jerry Schneider announced his candidacy for the open position of president and wrote his name on the board as a write in candidate for the election.
Jeff Zwiers said that he was declining his nomination, but did say a few words on why he felt the FRRC needs a president with experience.
No more write in’s were received.
Chris next announced that we were taking write-ins from the general body for the club Secretary. None were received.
Speeches were given for the presidential candidates. Chris gave his speech and Jerry declined to give a speech.
Next, Chris brought up the divisional rules meetings which were scheduled by the officers for after the general meeting.
Tim Rothe asked why the changes in inspectors was never brought up in front of the general body for a discussion.
Chris responded that the officers felt a change was needed and that more extensive teching was needed in the pits.
Jeff Zwiers asked how we can be just in the process of electing new club officers, when the ones that are up for election were already involved in making personnel decisions. He said Clint can attest to the fact that employees and contractors are typically not hired until January and February every year.
Chris said the officers wanted the inspectors to be involved early on in rules meetings and discussions right from the start this year.
Tim Rothe said elected officers are the tech people’s boss and that the newly elected officers should be giving the tech people direction on what they want to see teched . He said the club body should have been at the very least prepped on what qualifications these new tech inspectors have and what tools they own to inspect properly with.
Chris said that the officers felt that these new tech people have the knowledge required for the position.
Tim Rothe said it should have been brought up to the club body for a discussion before any decisions were made.
Jeff Zwiers commented that he felt that inspectors shouldn’t need to be at the meetings if they were just discussions and not to make any decisions. That is why he felt like we jumped the gun on hiring new inspectors.
Hank Calmes said that he feels like when the club hires people, the officers should have the final say, even if the issue is discussed with the general club body.
Chris said that maybe the officers jumped the gun on this action and that the officers should make the final decision, but that it could have been brought up to the club body for discussion. He said that was our mistake.
Mike Kelly asked if we ever called other tracks to get info about the LLM rules, as getting rid of the unported motors is getting rid of the number one motor option in the state for LLM’s
Chris said this was already voted on and is a done deal.
Jeff Zwiers brought up that it was voted on in the past and the only recent vote was to allow one more year as a run off for the unported motors for 2007. He said this division is supposed to be a stepping stone to moving up to the LM division.
Judi Monday said unported motors have been being progressively weeded out for years now
Hank Calmes said that the reason to limit the motor options was to limit the costs in this division.
Chris suggested that if there are so many people FOR bringing back this motor option, is should be brought up in the LLM rules meeting discussions afterwards.
Dan Harrell made a motion that we take the discussion in another direction until the elections take place, otherwise we are discussing things with officers that may not even be in office, so everything is tentative.
Next Chris briefly moved on to the other agenda items of: Pick-a-lane or straight up, leader alone on restarts or by himself. He said these issues would be discussed at length next month and decided on.
Chris brought up for a vote the season length:
Tom Gee gave a short analysis from our book keeper Cheryl Schneider about past years attempts to extent the season, try different nights, etc and how much money was lost in this process.
Votes for the same length at 2007: 72
Votes for more events than 2007: 0
Votes for less events than 2007: 0
Lastly for old business the general body was called up for elections. While elections were being counted, we moved on to new business.
NEW BUSINESS
Chris brought up the topic of crate motors.
He said we could find a local engine builder to police this and have
them be the club’s preferred rebuilder. Anyone not being rebuilt
by them would be subject to a possible tear down
at any time.
Tim Rothe asked what happens if a traveler comes?
Cal Harrell said once we find this local engine builder, he will start charging more.
Hank Calmes suggested checking with Madison on how they check them.
Terry Korth asked what it would take for
folks to find these bolts that the club’s local engine builder was using and
use them themselves. He said you find such items advertised in
magazines.
Pat Braun said the only way to test it accurately is to dyno it.
Chris asked where the money would come from to dyno it? Pat said the driver asking for the dyno should pay for it.
Lowell Bennett said there is a chasis dyno place in Greenville
Tim Springstroh said most crates have questionable parts on them.
Monty Tetzlaff said the dyno machine at Madison doesn’t lie
Chris asked who would pay for the dyno trip to Madison and the transportation there and back?
Chris said these are all good ideas to bring to the rules meetings
Jim Vandenberg said we should still look into the chasis dyno place.
Tim Springstroh said there are too many other parts on the car that affect a chassis dyno.
Tom Gee mentioned that we have plaques and trophies up front left over from the
Banquet for people to pick up after the meeting.
Jim Ebben asked how the rules meetings
will be policed? Chris said prospective tech inspectors and officers
would police them and take notes.
50/50 was done and the winner of $51 was Mike Kelly
Election results: Secretary
nominated candidates: Clint Smith 84
declared write in candidates: none
President
Nominated candidates: Chris Shields 38
Declared write in candidates: Jerry Schneider 61
Chris called the newly elected president, Jerry Schneider to the front to adjourn the meeting
Motion was made by Lowell Bennett and seconded by Monty Tetzlaff
Meeting adjourned at 8:11pm
NEXT MONTHS MEETING WILL BE THE 4TH MONDAY IN NOVEMBER, NOT THE 3RD ONE, DUE TO EARLY DEER HUNTING SEASON.
DATE: Monday, September 24, 2007 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Chris Shields called the meeting to order @ 7:01pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Larry Sebeck mentioned that at the last driver’s meeting of the year, officers said that having the leader start alone in the front row was discussed at the April meeting, yet there was no mention of it. Clint looked through the minutes and found that Larry was correct that restarts were not discussed at the April meeting, but were discussed in the March meeting, as well as earlier meetings. Correction noted.
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Marty Nussbaum. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report.
Roughly $45,000 will be paid out for this year’s points fund, which is more than double last years, due to higher fan counts, more sponsored nights and overall cooperation from the club as a whole.
Doug carpenter asked if checks were mailed out, as we announced they would be at the last drivers meeting. Larry apologized and said this was not able to happen, but checks are available tonight.
Motion to accept made by Mike Bunnell, seconded by Dennis Baldry. Motion Carried.
OLD BUSINESS
· Chris mentioned that we were seeking feedback from the 07 season on the pick a lane restarts.
Larry Seebeck said he thinks the leader should have the front row to himself.
Andy Monday suggested keeping it the way it was as it is more exciting for the fans
Cal Harrell suggested we should move the cone further down the straightaway for pick a lane
Larry Seebeck suggested putting it going into turn 3
Jeff Zwiers said pick a lane by the front stretch worked and got better as the season went on
Tom Gee suggested doing it on the middle of the backstretch, as it works at Norway.
Clint mentioned that it will be harder to police that way
Dan Harrell said that in the semi feature pick a lane should go right to the end, as it is a very important race with a lot on the line, so the 5 to go single file should be waved for semi –features. Officers liked this idea a lot and will take it under advisement for future rules and procedure changes.
Terry Korth asked what other tracks do. Tom mentioned that Norway does the leader all alone and Clint mentioned Slinger has the leader pick a lane (inside or outside) and the rest fall in line in their current running order—no cone or option to pick a lane.
Tom Gee suggested the leader by himself only gives the leader a slight advantage and double file may actually give the outside car a small advantage.
Andy Monday said side by side also keeps the leader honest and prevents him from jumping the start on everyone.
Chris Shields suggested seriously considering what Dan Harrell mentioned about doing away with the pick a lane with less than 5 laps to go in the semi features.
Hank Calmes suggested not doing pick a lane and line up straight up, but thought that whatever we decide to do we should stick with it all year long.
Chris Shields mentioned there were a lot of
good discussions on the topic and lots of
things to think about when deciding on the procedures for the
’08 season
· Chris brought up suspensions and fines. We donated a like amount comparable to the fines we collected in the amount of $300 to the Kemkes Breast Cancer fundraiser.
Doug Carpenter asked if suspensions are carried over to the following year? Chris said no, they are not and are also “competition weeks only” rainouts do NOT count.
Mark Ritger said he felt on the ¼ mile the flagman lost control of the races. He said there was way too much over aggressive driving and not enough black flags.
Randy Sankowsky said there was also no control in the 4 cylinder races on the ¼ mile, where drivers were just deliberately taking others out with no repercussions. He said he wasn’t sure if the flagman was tired, or why he wasn’t addressing this issue more.
Chris mentioned that
the officers will discuss these issues further before making a decision on
who the flagman
would be in 2008.
· Chris briefly mentioned that the crate motor option would be more than likely written into the rules for 2008 as 60/40 split and 2600# minimum weight. This would be for any and all crate motors, including ASA LM cars. Chris said if members have feelings on this, please bring them to the rules meetings next month.
· Chris asked for a motion to destroy the ballots from the V.P. votes from the July drivers meeting. Motion made by Andy Monday, seconded by Evan Carpenter
· Chris took nominations for President:
Chris Shields was nominated by Andy Monday and
accepted the nomination
Jeff Zwiers was nominated by Cal Harrell and said he would have an answer
at the next meeting
Nominations were closed
· Chris took nominations for Secretary:
Clint Smith was nominated by Marty Nussbaum and accepted the nomination
Nominations were closed
· Next Chris Shields thanked the Board of Directors for their support throughout the season. Volunteers for next year should come up to the front after the meeting to be on the board for the 2008 season. If there is more than one volunteer for any one division, the officers decided that the Audit committee would decide who the volunteer would be.
· Dan Carpenter asked what the penalty is for being DQ’ed? Chris said it depends on what the situation is and asked what he was referring to. Dan brought up the car that had an illegal shock. Chris responded that the officers decided no points and money for the feature race. Then, the team suggested that they should get points and the money for the semi-feature, as they had passed inspection prior to transferring up. The officer’s vote was deadlocked and it went to the Board of Directors, who were against giving the driver any points and money for the whole night. This was equated into only the original points and money we gave him…for qualifying and the heat race, so no semi-feature points and money.
Dan Carpenter’s
second DQ question came with the #1K car who had illegal ignition. Chris
said that when we
had plans to address the car, the team brought their big Eight car
instead. Big 8 rules do not outlaw this, so he was
given one week to come into compliance to our rules.
· George Schwalbach asked what every happened to cars that don’t show up for the car show not being eligible for best appearing car? Chris and Clint both mentioned that this was a good idea that was brought up several times, but never implemented as it was voted down.
· Josh Jeske asked if we could make sure the track was clean before restarts on the ¼ mile. Chris said…YES
NEW BUSINESS
· Chris Shields addressed that banquet tickets have been reduced to $15 a piece because of the excellent financial season. He also said we are in need of volunteers to sell 50/50 tickets at the banquet. Please come up to the front after the meeting.
· Rules discussions—These will start next month after the general meeting. Chris said we want to make some decisions as officers on who we want as inspectors next year, so they can be present at these rules discussions.
· Dan Harrell suggested that we post on websites that we are hiring for all general laborers and see if we get some quality responses, as competition breeds quality.
· Time Issues were discussed next—Dave Valentyne suggested having group qualifying sessions to reduce the time early on in the night, as transponders will pick up everyone’s best time.
Chris Shields asked the general membership their thoughts on doing the triple crown format for all nights: This didn’t seem like too popular of an idea.
Larry Seebeck suggested 1x15 minute practice sessions and 1x5 minute session for both LM and LLM divisions to get cars set up better and make adjustments in the 15 minute one and the extra 5 for a scuff session. Officers will take this under advisement.
Dan Harrell suggested bumping 30 cars into the features and getting rid of semi-features.
Andy suggested ditching the pick a lane in heat races altogether and having only single file restarts.
Mark Ritger suggested also getting rid of pick a lane on restarts on the ¼ mile to save time.
Jeff Zwiers suggested starting the races at 6:30pm next year
Chris Shields said that a lot of times the kids ride along, big wheels, etc has us behind the 8 ball right off the bat. Then, when we start at 7:20pm, we are going to have a late night for sure.
Hank Calmes suggested starting all restarts straight up and doing away with the pick a lane which would save time.
Chris Shields mentioned that the officers are seriously considering moving the inner pits driver’s meeting up to 4:45pm, so everyone knows what is going on that night before they hit the track and we are not hurrying in a drivers meeting right before 7pm. No feedback was given by the general membership
· NEW DRIVERS: Starting next season, there will be a sign at the pit pay window listing that we need all drivers information that night, or pay will be forfeited.
OPEN TOPICS FROM THE FLOOR
· Dan Harrell suggested that a bylaw change be considered that allows team names to be used when buying memberships, but they just cant vote. This was outlawed in 2007, so Dan had to pay full memberships for guys who only came a couple times.
· Evan carpenter said the yellow stripe for rookies was a good idea. He secondly asked about the unported motors. Chris Shields addressed that this was already added to the rules in amendment form that these motors are not allowed in the LLM class after the 2007 season.
· Jeff Zwiers said a tire recycler will be stopping by wir soon to get any extra tires people want to discard
· Terry Korth suggested that fans vote for best appearing car. Chris replied that it is listed in the bylaws, so this is something that would have to be changed there, rather than just voted on.
· Dennis Stebane said he did a survey with the LLM teams and had 9 votes for the spec motor, 8 votes for the crate and 8 votes for the unported motor. Chris said this is a done deal no matter what the surveys said. There is no going back on this—NO UNPORTED MOTORS IN 2008 in the LLM class. If cars with unported motors show up, they will need to strap on 10” tires and race with the SLM’s
Kris Oliver asked when we are going to start teching the spec motors. Chris said we will be addressing this next year with the 2008 tech crew.
· Mark Ritger said he will work next year on doing a car show again in Chilton. He also suggested considering selling a 10 pack of tickets for repeat customers at the top gate. The idea was taken under advisement.
· Andy Monday said he thinks we should consider starting earlier in the season and running later into September. Chris Shields reported that the officers had already discussed this and felt we would lose money in the year end points fund by doing this, possibly up to $4K or 5K a week, but ultimately we would like to hear what the general membership thinks.
Dan Harrell suggested canceling on a Tuesday if the weather looks terrible for the upcoming week.
Chris reminded the general club body that starting earlier would lose money and he suggested that the club members think about it and we can decide next month.
Jim Duchow said racing in this area is Memorial day to Labor Day. If you go much before or after this, you will lose money.
A club member suggested trying on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Chris mentioned this was also tried and failed.
· Cal Harrell suggested changing points for the dash so we are not rewarding top qualifiers twice.
Andy Monday said the top qualifiers have to already start further back in the feature and should be compensated for this.
Cal Harrell suggested the same points for the dash and the other heats, rather than a huge difference.
Jim Duchow thought it might be worthwhile to consider 3 equal heats
· Larry Seeback suggested not doing the current Bud format on Bud nights.
Randy Sankowsky suggested not having Bud decide which way the sizzling 4 cars will run
Tom Gee mentioned that sponsors are how we make money during a season and it is most important to make them happy
Jeff Zwiers reminded everyone that sponsors are how we are able to put on a good show
Mark Dierks reminded everyone that adding heat races to a Bud triple Crown would make the show go longer, as we have extended features and we couldn’t do the 110% payout either without losing money. We need to keep the sponsors happy
Marty Nussbaum suggested throwing competition yellows and having a few shorter segments
Hank Calmes thinks that we need to put a higher priority to what the sponsors want as that is what puts money in the points fund.
· Tom Gee suggested that the tire rule for triple crowns be changed and be the same as every other week, not giving an extra tire. Everyone is on the same tire program anyway. He suggested thinking about this as a change for the rules meetings for LLM and LM’s next month.
· Marty Nussbaum suggested former officers not get in free to the pits.
· Jim Ebben asked what ideas and direction drivers should consider bringing to the rules meetings next month. Chris Shields said anything they would like to see changed and officers will take these ideas under advisement and vote on them
· A member in the back…not sure of name asked why the officers get to make the final decision on rules. Answer: because we are the elected officials of the club and that is what elected officials do…make decisions. Clint suggested this individual get himself nominated and elected if he wants to make decisions on the 2008 rules.
· Tom Gee suggested that everyone bring fresh ideas next month, so the club can continue to flourish.
· Randy Sankowsky asked if all divisions were represented in the points payout. Answer was not 4 cylinders randy mentioned that he thought this was changed last year. Clint said it is in the bylaws what percentage goes to each divisions and the idea was suggested to the last president, but the decision was to not add the 4 cylinders at that time. This is why they have a lower number registration amount than the other divisions.
50/50 winner was Al Gouleke $52.50
Motion to adjourn was made by Jim Kemkes, seconded by Marty Nussbaum.
Meeting adjourned at 8:36 pm.
DATE: Monday,
April 23, 2007 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jeff Zwiers called the meeting to order @ 7:06pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Bill Fischer, seconded by Dave Moderson. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report.
Motion to accept made by Gary Bock, seconded by Dennis Baldry. Motion
Carried.
Old business:
• Jeff announced that the Board of Directors has been formed, and Mike
Bunnell came up front to discuss their wording and purpose
B-O-D duties are as follows—help the officers as needed, Make the final
decision on grievance procedures presented to them (person from the division
involved will be absent from the decision being made), and remove an officer
if general members or the Board of Directors collectively feel this is
necessary.
• Pat Barrett (Flagman for 2007) was introduced and read off his credentials
and years of experience. Pat said he will do his best to be consistent in
making any and all calls. Next, Pat did a question and answer session, which
went as follows:
Question (Dave Stammer)—Will more people spotting be giving too many
opinions
Answer—No, we will check with people in the areas where they are located
only.
Pat read off what the contact rule will consist of in 2007:
* Two or more cars that are involved in an “incident” when a caution flag is
displayed, the decision will be to place the cars that were “involved” in
the back, but in front of lapped cars.
* Spin to avoid-if the car doesn’t make contact, they may get their spot
back, if not “involved” in
the reason why the caution flag was waved. (minor contact trying to avoid
will not be considered
“involvement”)
Question (Charlie Haven)---will this rule be the same for both ½ mile and ¼
mile
Answer-Yes
Pat also added that a “no fault” caution will be decided if a caution flag
has to be waved for debris
on the track where the track was at fault for not seeing the debris.
Q—(Dave Stammer)—What if someone keeps blocking and won’t give a lane to
pass and another
car bumps him.
A—If there is contact and there is a caution, both cars will go to the back
Q—(Todd Baumann)---How many times can you block before action is taken?
A—3 collective laps of blocking without obeying the “pick-a-lane” flag and
you will be black flagged.
Q—(Dave Moderson)—What if a car spins before the race starts?
A—There may be one chance to re-do the start, or else they will have to go
to the back.
Q—(Floyd Anthony)—Why do we have so many spotters, and do we need that
many??
A—Pat explained how many we have and what area of the track each of them
will be covering to get the best vantage point for making the best decision
on each call.
Pat explained his “Black Flag Rule”, which he has literature on and will
read to the drivers at the first drivers meeting on May 24th.
Q—(Gary Bock) will you still use the board
A-Yes, Jodie Smith will display your number if you are being black flagged
and Dave Valentyne will relay the info. to your spotter.
Pat listed “automatic black flags”—part of your car will fall off, fluid
leak, intentionally going after someone on the track.
Q—will you give warnings before black flagging cars?
A—Very rarely will Pat point the black flag. He only plans to pull it out if
he intends to use it.
If the car is black flagged, but deemed later by the tech crew to be safe,
they can return into the race. If you are black flagged, go directly to your
pit stall. NO MORE STOP AND GO PENALTY’S
Larry Van Groll addressed the general body reminding them to not go on the ½
mile track from the ¼ mile if leaking. YOU MUST GO IN THE ½ MILE PITS.
Q-(Jim Ebben)—What is your interpretation of the 3 wide rule??
A—The interpretation will be based on whether it is intentionally done.
Evan Carpenter stated that the 3 wide rule at wir has always been that you
cannot go 2 wide on the INSIDE.
Q—(Dave Stammer) Is it really ALWAYS the car on the inside, or is it the car
that made it 3 wide? A—It is the car that made it 3 wide that will be black
flagged. Clint also added that the 3 wide rule will only punish the inside
car if it cannot be determined which car made it 3 wide. If it is obvious
which one did, that car will be punished, whether inside outside or the
middle. Pat agreed.
Q-(Jerry Van Handel)—Should the club have a commitment line to determine
which lane you are committing to when you enter a corner?
A—Jeff Zwiers said we will re-paint the lines and extend them an extra 200
feet entering turn one and turn 3.
Q—(Bill Fischer)-If you cause 2 yellow are you black flagged, like at
Plover?
A—Up to the club’s race procedures. Clint commented that this is if you
cause two yellows by yourself, or are deemed fully at fault for two cautions
in the same race.
Pat mentioned that double file restarts will be done the same as regular
starts. He also clarified that a “mechanical” black flag where you need to
leave the track and a rough driving black flag will be dealt with
differently.
Q-(Gordie Sannes)—Will the starts be the same as last year?
A—Yes. Clint added that a cone and the white line will just offer more
visual cues to the driver as to where to start the race, in addition to Pat
waving the green flag at that spot on the track.
Q—(Doug Carpenter)—asked about restarts?
A-Same as starts at the start line
Q—(Dave Moderson)—Will the ¼ and ½ be the same with starts
A-same on both tracks, for the most part. We are trying to build
consistency.
Pat thanked everyone for their questions and said he would have more things
to cover at the May 24th driver’s meeting.
• Hooters Car Show is May 26th at 10:30am
• Advertising Committee Update--$3,400 for Bud Triple Crown advertising
$800 to sponsor racing minute
$3,000 for 6 Nascar race spots ( 5 Nextel Cup and 1 Truck race)
• Sponsor Update—Stock Lumber dropped out of their sponsorship agreement for
July 5th, which is the Fireworks night. We are now in need of a sponsor for
this night. It is usually our biggest fan count night of the season, so it
is a great opportunity.
• Reminder that memberships go up $25 a piece after tonight.
• John’s towing from Neenah will help us out with a flatbed on Thursday
nights. Terry Miller
helped set this up for the club.
• Beeway will be selling TORCO race fuel, instead of Citgo. They will be
having a program called “Dash for Gas” in which the winner of the LM and the
winner of the LLM feature will receive a certificate for 5 free gallons of
gas, if they have a Beeway sticker on their car and purchased at least 5
gallons of Torco from Beeway that night.
• Jerry Hansen lined up TNT Truck Parts and accessories as the Super stock
sponsor for 2007
• Photography—Twist Photography will be providing the club with pictures for
our website.
Dennis Payne (of Twist photography) gave a short speech about also providing
Hot Shots and
race T-shirts in the pits and on his website. Dennis is the photographer for
the Oshkosh
Speedzone.
• An official vote was taken on incorporating the Board of Directors
literature into our bylaws.
52 in favor and zero against.
NEW BUSINESS
• Practice Day is Saturday, May 12th. Gates open at 8am and cars will be put
on the track at
around 11am. $20 per car. Rotate practice per division
• Lake Park Pub and Kemkes racing are teaming up to do a Breast Cancer
Awareness fundraising
drive and would like to team up with Fox River Racing Club. Michelle Kemkes
gave a speech
on the proposal and handouts were passed out.
• Country Inn and Suites is considering being the “official” hotel of Fox
River Racing Club.
What this would mean for us is $250 website sponsorship and a special rate
for drivers and
crews of Fox River Racing Club by booking through their special link on our
website. They
are also considering other sponsorship opportunities with FRRC.
• We are doing a ticket swap of 20 tickets with Oshkosh Speedzone and
possible other local
tracks to give away to fans as prizes to promote coming to our track.
• Mark Ritger brought up that Hwy 55 is all torn up right now and was
wondering if we decided
on an alternate route to the race track. Jeff Zwiers said that this
construction should be all
cleaned up by the time race season starts.
• Larry Van Groll spoke about WIR and the Pit Stop sponsorship. Roger told
him to pass along
to anyone sponsored by the Pit Stop last year, don’t assume you will be
sponsored by them
again. You should contact Roger directly to line this up. Open practice on
Tuesdays starts on
Tuesday, May 1st. There will be new waiver forms that everyone will need to
fill out, not like
the old sheets.
• Mark Ritger asked for feedback on drivers interested in a possible car
show partnered with
Chilton. People should check with the officers if they have interest in
this.
• 50/50 winners were Todd Verhagen $57
Andy Monday $10 gift certificate for Pit Row
Judi Monday $10 gift certificate for Pit Row
Motion to adjourn was made by Dave Moderson, seconded by Bill Fischer.
Meeting adjourned at 8:26 pm.
DATE: Monday, March
26, 2007 TIME: 7 pm PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jeff Zwiers called the meeting to order @ 7:04pm.
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Gary Bock , seconded by George Schwalbach. Motion
Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report.
Motion to accept made by Dennis Stebane, seconded by Gary Bock. Motion
Carried.
Jeff additionally mentioned that this report is always posted up front for
anyone to look at after the meetings.
Old business:
• Jeff announced that the Board of Directors has been formed, but they are
still looking for a figure eight representative to join. Thus far this group
includes:
WIR rep—Dave Valentyne
Former FRRC Officer—Mike Bunnell
Audit committee rep—Gordie Sannes
LM rep---Andy Monday
LLM rep—Dennis Stebane
SS rep—Jerry Hansen
Siz4 rep—Nick Boldt
Sport truck rep—Robb Vandermoss
This group will be putting together their duties and explaining their
purpose, which will be
presented and voted on at the next club meeting for incorporation into our
bylaws.
• Pat Barrett (Flagman) and Mike Barrett (Announcer) will be present for the
next club meeting to field any questions members may have about the 2007
season that pertains to their job duties.
• LM and LLM semi-feature pay increases have been made for the 2007 season.
LM is more than the LLM as there was more extra money paid out last year
from throwing all the cars in the feature with 23 cars all in the feature
several times last year.
• Make-a-wish event is May 19th this year at W.I.R. We can use support from
drivers and teams for this event. More info to be announced next month.
• May 26th is the date for the Car Show at Hooters. It was nice to see the
Anthony Car at the World of Wheels this past weekend.
• Clint presented the general club body with a partially completed nightly
fan scorecard. All spots were taken except one, which was later filled by
Lake Park Pub. The club will have an increased revenue of $3,000 from this
project. We will have weekly points sheets, too and can use up to two more
$200 sponsors for these.
• Jeff announced that there is only one open night left for nightly
sponsors: 8/30/07, as USG Sheetrock will be taking the 8/16/07 night,
partnered with Budweiser.
• Jeff announced an update from the advertising committee, with spending
totals in the ball park of $10,000. This will be spent mostly on WAPL and
FOX 11 advertising. We will also give away tickets on WOZZ and WAPL. Andy
Monday will be talking to John Leopold from 1570 the Score about additional
radio advertising. Additionally, we plan on sponsoring the local “racing
minute” on WAPL this year.
• Jeff announced that we are pursuing a website store for frrc.net to sell
FRRC merchandise; we have collected proposals from Createch and will also be
getting additional proposals from Eagle Graphics and Maurquet design before
making any final decisions.
• Jeff announced that memberships are on sale tonight. The price will go up
AFTER the April meeting (4/23/07) So when Larry closes his briefcase for the
night, the price goes up $25 a piece.
NEW BUSINESS
• Beeway will be our parts truck for 2007. He will carry Citgo gas. Mark
Ritger suggested that we have an e-mail link on our website or contact
information for drivers to order parts from him ahead of time. Clint will
get in touch with Wayne about this.
• Jeff announced that we still need a flatbed for 2007, as Rick’s is not
able to provide this service for us this year. Any leads should be directed
to a club officer.
• Quizno’s of Kaukauna will be providing us with a contingency sponsor for
2007. They will give a party platter certificate valued at $60 each week to
the Late Model fast qualifier. They must then pick this up the following
week on their way to the track. The entire package is valued at $900 for the
year. They ask that we send business their way in return and will be
announced as the sponsor of this each night. Jerry Van Handel was involved
with setting this up for the club. We are open for other businesses that
want to do similar contingency sponsors for 2007.
• Steve Einhaus may be coming to the April meeting to talk to drivers about
possibly renting out their cars for the Nascar guests for the Dixieland
event. Thus far, it appears that Kyle Busch, David Stremme, Dick Trickle and
a couple Sauters will be on hand to compete in this event. Kwik Trip will be
doing the 50/50 this night in partnership with a possible appearance by
Brett Favre for one of his local charities.
• Jeff announced that we are still in need of a Super Stock divisional
sponsor, which is $750 a season. We are also in need of website sponsors for
$250 a piece. This money would go towards the general frrc funds, which
later equate into a points fund at the year’s end, depending on the success
of the season.
• Chris explained more details about the Super Stock Challenge Series
between 141 and FRRC. Ganrud will sponsor this combined points in a 4 event
series (2 at frrc and 2 at 141). The dates are: May 31 (FRRC), June 23rd
(141), July 14 (141) and August 2nd (FRRC). In order to be eligible for the
points payout, YOU MUST COMPETE IN ALL 4 RACES. Rainouts will be the week
after, except for the May 31st one, due to the triple crown. In that case it
will be 2 weeks after. Cars will run their home track tire rules.
• Jeff announced that the Super Stock crate motor will start out at 3,000#,
and we will R and D it from there as the season goes on.
• Jeff announced that we are still looking for a track photographer to take
picture for the website, as Dan Lewis will not be providing this for us in
2007. Any leads should be shared with the club officers as soon as possible.
• Jeff next opened up the floor for an open discussion on double file
restarts. He said that he would like to run double file restarts right up to
the end of the race. He also requested feedback on picking a lane on double
file restarts.
Andy Monday said with 5 laps to go, the restarts should be single file.
Brent Strelka said pick-a-lane for restarts is a good idea.
Lowell Bennet and Tim Rothe and Mitch Heimlich suggested running it like
Slinger as it seems to work well for them. The leader picks a lane and
everyone else falls in order behind him in their current running order.
Tim Rothe mentioned that his concern is putting drivers who are not
comfortable on the outside might be a project that we have to tweak.
Scott Vandermolen said putting a rookie in front of a veteran on the outside
on a restart could create a big mess.
Dan Carpenter inquired on how cars will get lined up. Jeff explained that
they will stop in turn 4 and be sent by Larry to the flag stand where they
will pick a lane. They will be given the one to go right then and there and
sent around for their start.
It was suggested that using a pick a lane cone might be helpful and
speedier. Jeff said we will try it this way first and possibly adjust it, if
needed.
Andy Monday questioned restarts, if lineups will be the same for STARTS and
RESTARTS. Jeff aid yes, they will both be the same.
A head count/advisory vote was taken on whether or not we should do single
file restarts with 5 laps to go. 19 were for and 8 against.
An additional head count/advisory vote was also take on whether we should
sue Pick-a-lane on the restarts, or as you were running (1,3,5,7 on inside,
and 2,4,6 on outside)
Pick a lane got 28 votes and 1,3,5,7,etc received 5 votes.
Jim Ebben asked about how many cars equal a semi-feature this year, or is
this decided on a per
night basis. Jeff answered there is a set number of 21 cars. Therefore, once
we exceed 20 cars,
there will be a semi-feature in the LM, LLM and SS divisions.
Dan Harrell questioned if the semi-feature will be lined up straight up or
with an invert. It is
currently listed in our race procedures to do a 6 car semi-feature invert.
Dan Carpenter suggested doing all restarts single file, as he felt double
file restarts will
create more cautions.
Jeff said that ¼ mile restarts will be double file no matter how many laps
there are to go.
Andy Monday asked if heat races will also be restarted double file up to 5
to go and Jeff said
yes, we will keep it consistent all night for the fans to follow along.
• Jeff next opened a discussion on the contact rule and opinions were
shared. He said the officers are suggesting an “involvement rule” rather
than the car to car contact rule, where all cars “involved” in the caution
or are the cause of the caution will go to the back.
Evan Carpenter asked how many spotters we will have in 2007. Jeff said
between the corner
spotters and the flagmen a total of 6 spotters. Evan suggested moving the
turn 3 spotter stand
back to get a better view. Jeff said this can be looked at.
Dennis Stebane questioned a certain “what if” as far as how the contact rule
would be enforced.
Jeff said we will wait to address this when Pat Barrett comes to our next
meeting.
• Guest Speaker Travis Pfrang addressed the general club body about his
company Eagle Sign, which is in partnership with Eagle Graphics. They are
available for lettering on cars, etc Brochures were left at the head table.
• Jeff announced that W.I.R’s Tuesday night practices will start the first
Tuesday in May, which is May 1st. Dan Van Daalwyk was also at the meeting
with posters and schedules for the 2007 season.
• Lowell Bennet questioned the “bump and run” rule. Jeff responded that this
is an age old dilemma/Tim Rothe said this should be mainly up to the
enforcement of the flagman, as should the policing of the pick-a-lane flag.
Jeff said that the flagman will be addressing both of these and relaying it
to Dave Valentyne, who will then tell the spotters/Lowell Bennet suggested
using the numbers more on the board for pick a lane, not just the black
flag.
• Dave Stammer suggested having an all rookies meeting. Jeff said he didn’t
deem this necessary, but hoped that rookies would seek out veterans for
advice.
• Tim Rothe reminded everyone that spotters are required on the ½ mile. Jeff
agreed and added that if you do not have a spotter signed in with Dave
Valentyne, you will be black flagged.
• Several members questioned if the spotter stand in turn three is in the
right spot. Jeff said we will take it under advisement, but are planning on
having a lift in turn three with an additional spotter in it.
• Jeff asked for feedback from the group if we need to have regular weekly
drivers meetings, or if we should just have them when there is important
information to share or address. No feedback was offered. The officers will
discuss this further.
• Pete Vandermolen suggested painting the lines back on the track for the
lanes. We will consider doing this.
• 50/50 winner was Evan Carpenter $35.
Motion to adjourn was made by Mark Ritger, seconded by Lowell Bennet.
Meeting adjourned at 8:01pm.
Next Month’s meeting will be on April 23rd at 7pm. THIS IS THE LAST MEETING
TO BUY MEMBERSHIPS AT THE NORMAL PRICE. EACH MEMBERSHIP GOES UP $25 A PIECE
AFTER THIS MEETING. THIS INCUDES MAILED ONES ARRIVING AFTER 4/23/07 !!!
DATE: Monday, February 26, 2007 TIME: 7 pm PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jeff Zwiers called the meeting to order @ 7:03pm
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Dennis Stebane. Motion Carried.
Larry McArthur gave the Treasurer's report
Judi Monday questioned if any of the accounts receivables have come in. Larry answered NO, they are still outstanding balances.
Motion to accept made by Marty Nussbaum, seconded by Bob Schultz. Motion Carried.
Old business:
Jeff discussed the contract meeting held with Roger. The only changes for 2007 are:
---The way rainouts are paid. From now on we only pay full price if the rainout happens after 8pm. We pay ½ rental if cars are on the track and it is rained out before 8pm
---Ambulance services. Under Roger's advisement and o.k. in our insurance, we will be going with 2 EMT's and volunteer first responders, rather than having an extra paramedic on hand. This will save the club roughly $40 per hour each night, or roughly $200
Car Registration issue was brought up. The club officers suggested changing this to a CAR registration, rather than number registration and having all competitors have to pay this
amount the first time they compete each season, including travelers. Tom Spierowski suggested just getting rid of the registration fee and forgetting about the $2,000. Andy Monday and Brent Strelka both didn’t think it was a big deal to have duplicate numbers in the first place.
An advisory vote was taken 26 were in favor of making this a CAR registration, rather than a number registration. Zero were against.
Mike Springstroh questioned why the fee for number registration couldn’t be part of the transponder fee. Jeff explained that they are two different issues and many locals own their own transponders, so it is only fair to keep them separate.
Board of Directors–still need more people to sign up–see Clint after the meeting. We NEED a former club officer to take the lead on this once it is formed, as a current club officer is NOT part of this group, nor should they be.
Advertising committee–we still need more people and input to get together and decide where we will be spending our 2007 advertising budget.
2 Nightly sponsors opportunities still available– 8/16 partnered with Budweiser and 8/30 for fan appreciation night. Jeff has a lead on a possible sponsor for 8/16. Any other members who think they might be able to help with sponsorship, please come up to the head table after the meeting.
Clint read off highlights of the contractors/laborers meeting. One big change was that we will be having a new flagman in 2007-Pat Barrett, as well as a new announcer in Mike Barrett. Both individuals also work at Golden Sands Speedway
Next, Jeff brought up double file restarts–He explained that this will be happening in 2007 to improve the quality of racing for the fans. This will be for all divisions–no more pick a lane, even on the 1/4 mile. Andy Monday suggested NOT having double file restarts for last 5 laps of a race. The officers will take that under advisement.
Dave Stammer questioned car to car contact rule and what it will be like in 2007. Jeff explained that with a new flagman, he thinks many of these issues will be much different than in 2006. All cars INVOLVED will go to the back under caution. Pete Vandermolen asked why a car can spin out before the race starts and still get to start on the front row. Jeff explained that this was 2006 and things will be different in 2007. Pete also said he feels it will take more time for double file restarts to get the show done. Judi Monday questioned why the employee meeting suggested paying Bud Collar, when he is there anyway on Thursdays making money. The main reason why this was brought up was because the club had a lot of faulty radio equipment last year.
NEW BUSINESS
Jeff explained that the Audit Committee had recommendations for 2007 and said they are available up front if anyone wants to read them.
The Scorecard idea was brought up by Jeff and a copy was held up by Clint. This project, if fully sponsored minus cost could generate close to $3,000 of revenue. These scorecards would be free to the fans. The weekly books will not be back in 2007
Jeff explained that because the rules are finalized for 2007, interpretations of these rules will be done by the tech inspectors, not club officers. So, if competitors have questions, they should go directly to the tech inspectors. Mark Ritger suggested that inspectors club e-mail addresses be set up soon and posted on frrc.net We will work with our webmaster on accomplishing this.
Payouts–Jeff announced that we will need to pay drivers the following week, with the last week being mailed. This will be changed for administrative purposes. The club officers all need to be available to handle disputes at the end of the night, not editing and handing out checks. They will be available the following week when you arrive at the track.
Roger will be purchasing a new scoreboard, which gets info. Directly from the AMB timing system. This will save the club a nightly scoreboard operator, approximately $40 a night.
Car Show–we are planning on having one at Hooters on May 26th, similar to last year. But, we could use more cars this year.
Brent Strelka questioned if 4 cylinders could have team cars. Jeff answered that ONLY super Stocks can have team cars. There is an amendment at the head table soon to be posted on the website about this.
Dan Harrel questioned our points system and wanted to know if it would be changing. Jeff said it will be the same as 2006
Jeff announced that the LM semi-feature pay will be restructured to pay a higher amount per position. He said this will be done in large part to having 14 cars in the feature and 4 transfers. This will almost certainly assure a semi-feature each week, so the pay has to be a little more realistic.
Cal Harrell questioned why the top qualifiers get rewarded 2 times for the dash and the qualifying time. Jeff said this will be staying the same in 2007.
Keith Kuchenbecker questioned which flagman makes the call on a black flag. Jeff said there will only be one flagman in 2007-Pat Barrett. Keith Kuchenbecker questioned why the black flag needs to be waved 10 times before getting parked. Jeff said that is why we hired a new flagman
Andy Monday asked how a guy can get black flagged for smoking, yet still get his spot, getting the call overturned later in the pits. Jeff said again we will have a new flagman in 2007. This was NOT overturned by the club officers.
Mark Ritger suggested working with CCRA on a car show.
Marty Nussbaum suggested no pointing of the black flag. Either wave the thing or don’t. There shouldnt be so much confusion about this.
Keith Kuchenbecker questioned fairness in the pits from one team to the next. He said the Vice President’s car/driver did some outlandish things in the pits last year and nothing ever happened to him. Jeff said we will try to address things as fairly as possible and told Keith if he had more issues he should come up front after the meeting.
Andy Monday questioned the stop and go penalty. Jeff said it is gone.
Dave Stammer said it is issues like the ones Keith brought up that he feels the current officers are taking steps to try to improve the club for 2007 with all the changes they are making.
Dennis Stebane questioned what will happen for black flags for technical issues after we find out a car is not leaking. Jeff said we will do our best to not take someone off the track unless we are sure it is them leaking.
Dan Harrell suggested parking ½ mile cars on the front stretch of the 1/4 mile when they are getting black flagged so they don’t create a safety concern coming in the pits upset. Taken under advisement
Jim Ebben questioned whether he could change his number yet. Jeff said yes
Tom Spierowski asked if 2 cars had the same number would they both still have to pay the $20 fee. Jeff again explained it is now a CAR registration, not a number registration. Dan carpenter suggested considering pit stall rentals. Taken under advisement.
John Meidam questioned whether or not we are going to get way too many drivers in each division with the same number by doing the CAR registration. Jeff said that is how people voted.
Several people gave several different opinions on the matter. Mike Springstroh made a motion to limit the number of identical numbers per division to 2. If there are 3 or more drivers wanting the same number, the driver who has been a club member the longest would be entitled to that number
Seconded motion by Dan Carpenter. A vote was taken and 14 were FOR limiting the number of identical numbers in each division to two and zero against Motion carried.
Marty Nussbaum questioned now that the motion has been carried, will it be enforced as such. Jeff said yes, it will be enforced as such.
50/50 winner was Don Oudenhoven $30
$10 gift certificate for PIT ROW was won by Dan Carpenter
Motion to adjourn was made by Andy Monday, seconded by Brandon Conrad
Meeting adjourned at 8:14pm
Next Month’s meeting will be on March 26th at 7pm
DATE: Monday, January 22nd, 2007 TIME: 7 pm
PLACE: The Darboy Club
President Jeff Zwiers called the meeting to order @ 7:02pm
Jeff gave the Treasurer’s report, as there is currently no Treasurer. This report included the banquet information and the list of posted past due balances
Motion to accept by Dan carpenter. Seconded by Larry MacArthur
Clint gave the secretary’s report.
Evan Carpenter questioned why what was listed in the Secretary’s report was different than what we ultimately decided for the non-ported motors. Jeff explained that there are possibly 7 unported motors interested in running during the 2007 season. We are giving them a one year phase out, and that is what we ultimately decided on and put in writing, rather than just letting one guy run this year with this type of motor. Jim Ebben questioned if new people could still run the non-ported motor, and Jeff said yes, just for 2007.
Motion to accept made by Andy Monday, seconded by Dennis Stebane. Motion Carried.
Old business:
· 2007 Rules amendments were made available up front at the head table after the meeting. These will supplement the blue 2006 rule books. Jeff explained that we fielded a lot of input after the last meeting and made decisions based on what we felt was in the club’s best interest in regards to the amendments.
·
Nominations for the Treasurer were done, with write-in
candidates taken. Larry MacArthur announced his
candidacy for the Treasurer position and gave a short speech. No
other members announced their candidacy.
A raise of hands vote was taken. Most were in favor and none opposed.
Larry MacArthur was announced as
the new FRRC Club Treasurer and joined the head table.
NEW BUSINESS
·
Contract meeting will happen before the end of January with Roger.
We are recommending no changes,
due to the good financial year we had in 2006.
·
Nightly Sponsors—Jeff announced that we still have 3 nights
available for nightly sponsors, the nights of 6/21,
8/16 and 8/23. The nightly sponsorship package is pretty fair at
$2,500, getting a lot of this amount kicked
back in free tickets and the pavilion rental. Anyone with ideas or
leads should contact a club officer as soon
as possible, so we can get all the nights filled.
·
Memberships go on sale for the 2007 race season tonight, same rates
as the 2006 season. Please see Judi
Monday to purchase memberships after the meeting at the front
membership table.
·
Chris Grimes son passed away. Flowers were sent to the family
from FRRC. Chris sent a thank you card
back to us.
·
Jeff announced that the club is interested in forming a 2007
advertising committee. Interested parties should
come to the head table after the meeting.
·
Jeff also announced that we are again attempting to form a
Board of Directors, as it is listed in our bylaws.
Interested parties should see Clint after the meeting or get in touch
with him before the next meeting. We need
a representative from the Audit committee, a former frrc officer and a
divisional rep from each division, as well
as a w.i.r. representative.
·
Jeff announced that we will again be having our
employee/contractor’s meeting in Mid-February at the Pit Stop.
Clint will be in contact with interested parties. If you did not work
for the club in 2006, but are interested
in working for the club in 2007, contact Clint immediately, as this
meeting will be happening soon.
·
Bud Triple Crown format was announced by Jeff. It will be the
same as 2006, with the exception of adding
dashes in the top three divisions, as well as having novelty acts for
the three legs of the series. Motor bikes will
be there for one week, and two other novelty acts, such as chain race
or spin to win will occur the other two
nights. Financial contract will stay the same for 2007.
·
Chris Shields spoke about the formation of a new Super Stock
series between 141 Speedway and FRRC.
There will be 4 total races in this series, with 2 being at each track.
There will be a separate points fund just
for this series.
Home track rules
will be run (Good Year/Hoosiers) Tires will not count against nightly tire
counts for home
track rules. 30 lap features on those nights. The 2nd
Thursday night of the FRRC schedule will be the first
race of this series. More details to come shortly. Further
questions can be directed to Chris.
· Next, Jeff asked for suggestions for format changes to the nightly program
·
Jim Ebben wants to shorten the program and suggested getting rid
of the dashes and adding a few cars to each
heat race. Jeff said we would take this under advisement.
·
Judi suggested reducing the amount of cars qualifying into the
feature, to assure a semi-feature is run every
week. She suggested 12-14 cars, plus more advancing from this
semi-feature to fill the 18 car field.
·
Dennis Stebane questioned if dashes were gone, how would the
points be affected. This is a good point and
was also taken under advisement.
·
Another question was fielded about switching the Super Stock and
Sizzlin’ 4 practice. The officers will discuss
this, but Jeff did state that it has been hard to get drivers from
either division to the track that early.
·
Andy Monday suggested reducing the hot laps before each race
starts. Jeff said the officers would support
doing this and try to make this happen for 2007.
·
Dan Carpenter said the night would be shorter if cars could get
back in their right spot or get black flagged.
Jeff agreed and said that is our plan for 2007.
·
A club member questioned if the Sport Trucks were a traveling
series. Jeff confirmed that they HAVE a
traveling series, but that is different than Thursdays. Jeff confirmed
that they are a weekly series and they are
here to stay. Jeff also added that the club makes more money from this
division than we pay out to them.
·
Jerry Quella said that the Sport Trucks are in a sort of
transition phase right now, with some veterans
retiring and new rookies buying these trucks.
·
Dave Stammer suggested having a game plan on nights when long
cautions occur. Jeff said we will try our
hardest to keep drivers on alert.
·
Andy Monday suggested going from the 1/4 to the ½ and then back
to the 1/4 , then the ½, etc so the next
division would always be ready. It was taken under advisement.
· The birthdays of Jimmy Kemkes and Judi Monday were announced.
·
Jeff said we will not finalize race procedure changes until the
March and April meetings. We will continue to
take suggestions up until then.
· Jim Ebben asked about the contact rule for 2007. Jeff said we will discuss it further at the next few meetings.
· Andy Monday suggested bringing up having a scoreboard that works at the contract meeting with Roger.
·
Steve Einhaus was introduced and gave a short speech about the
new ASA Midwest Series. Future questions
should be directed to Steve via the ASA Midwest Series website.
50/50---was won by Jerry Quella in the amount of $28
A motion was made by Bill Fischer to adjourn the meeting at 7:43pm and this was seconded by Dan Carpenter. Meeting adjourned.
NEXT MONTHS MEETING---February 26th at 7pm
TOPICS---Race procedures will be discussed.